Rallye Monte Carlo 2015

[Lord_Shaitan]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/shake.ph...nte-Carlo-2015

Tanak's time has been canceled?

[stefanvv]

Shakedown - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4unAgRB5sYc

[dimviii]

[Lord_Shaitan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2it8wNJVSYU Kubica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2it8wNJVSYU Kubica2

This one was perfect.

[PLuto]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/shake.ph...nte-Carlo-2015

Tanak's time has been canceled?

Tanak"s time was wrong...

[Lundefaret]

very right mate.Happy to see that there are people that understant what they see

because of the above this pass wasn t fast neither safe.

Well, yes.
You must take in consideration what forces that acts upon the car, what speed the car travels, and what part of the turn it happens.

A small understeer out of a hairpin is not unsafe, because You are so slow that You could easily brake to a dead stop if required.
It will be very difficult to go off in this position, because You control the forces (or acceleration) with the throttle.
If Ogier felt he had to correct it, he could just go of the throttle a little bit, or he could have a small input on the brakes, but it was no problem so he just drove it out on understeer.

What Kubica does is much more dangerous. He doesnt brake enough before the corner, and the forces wanting the car to contionue straight on are massive. This is what results in the abrupt oversteer/rotation, and the sideways movement when he accelerates.
I have just seen another video from the same hairpin of Kubica where he actually move not only sideways, but backwards, all four wheels spinning. Not safe, not fast, and very high tire wear.

[PLuto]

Loeb - 2:21.0 / 2:23.6 / 2:23.9 / 2:23.0 / 2:30.6
Meeke - 2:21.4 / 2:22.4 / 2:25.0 / 2:23.6 / 2:30.1
Ogier - 2:22.1 / 2:22.9 / 2:28.6
Mikkelsen - 2:23.8 / 2:22.2 / 2:29.9
Kubica - 2:23.9 / 2:22.3 / 2:24.2 / 2:25.9 / 2:28.6
Evans - 2:22.4 / 2:23.7 / 2:28.1 / 2:29.2
Ostberg - 2:22.8 / 2:24.6 / 2:24.5 / 2:29.4 / 2:34.9
Sordo - 2:25.8 / 2:26.0 / 2:24.9 / 2:29.2
Neuville - 2:31.4 / 2:30.4 / 2:26.4 / 2:24.9 / 2:31.7 / 2:30.8
Tänak - 2:29.3 / 2:28.2 / 2:26.2 / 2:31.8 / 2:31.0
Chardonnet - 2:26.5 / 2:24.7 / 2:26.9 / 2:27.1
Latvala - 2:26.5 / 2:25.2 / 2:28.0 / 2:27.3 / 2:27.2
Sordo - 2:25.8 / 2:26.0 / 2:24.9 / 2:29.2
Protasov - 2:30.6 / 2:29.1 / 2:30.4 / 2:28.1 / 2:33.8
Solberg - 2:34.4 / 2:32.7 / 2:29.2 / 2:29.5 / 2:29.3 / 2:29.4
Bouffier - 2:43.0 / 2:33.1 / 2:33.3 / 2:30.7 / 2:30.1
Bertelli - 2:42.6 / 2:36.8 / 2:36.0
Prokop - 2:38.1

[tommeke_B]

Very good filming Tommeke_B!

Not my filming... Thank the internet

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4unAgRB5sYc

[Quad]

Kubica said that Pirelli don't have enough cuts for this conditions, so not bad time at all if tires are not great