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    Nothing is sure regarding this season yet...

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    Maybe he should measure his skills to Kajto, Breen, Lefevre and Lukyanuk first?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Maybe he should measure his skills to Kajto, Breen, Lefevre and Lukyanuk first?
    He did against Kajto and Breen last year and against Lefebvre two years ago when he beat him in the French 208 Cup.

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    Exactly, he has beaten all of those who Rallyper named, fair and square except Lukyanuk whom he never met (which is quite normal considering Lukyanuk has done very few international events).
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    OK then, let´s hope Abbring gets a decent drive in WRC this year.

    What these young guys need is to drive as much as possible, not rely on performance in single events. You can name so many that have tried and then disappeared after a only couple of goes spread out over a year or two.

    Money counts for sure.

    @Mirek It´s only 4wd that counts in my opinion. What you do in a R2 car isn´t the same as driving R5 or even more WRC-car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    We have to read good. A source, not Abbring self, said he drive wrc. Abbring quote said he will drive, nothing about wrc.
    What is the source of this news? Autosport-magazine or another magazine?
    Yes it's from Autosport Magazine.

    Maybe it's with Citroën on the rounds Al Qassimi isn't doing? Remember Paddon had an offer from Citroën as well, which he didn't take. I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    @Mirek It´s only 4wd that counts in my opinion. What you do in a R2 car isn´t the same as driving R5 or even more WRC-car.
    Abbring has beaten all in 4WD except Lefebvre but hey let's compare them.

    Both had their 4WD debut in Wales (Abbring 2011, Lefebvre 2014). Abbring WON among non-WRC drivers and finished 12th overall! Lefebvre was nowhere near the top WRC2 guys, finished 11th in WRC2 and 35th overall.

    Second 4WD event for Abbring was Monte Carlo 2012. He again won among non WRC drivers and finished 12th overall! Lefebvre had his second 4WD event this week in Jänner rally where he was again nowhere near the top drivers, later was excluded due to technical problems (not his fault).

    IMHO it's exactly opposite than how You wrote it. Breen, Kajetanowicz, Lukyanuk or Lefebvre must prove themselves against Abbring...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Exactly, he has beaten all of those who Rallyper named, fair and square
    When?

    The only events he finished last year the others did not due to technical problems and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    When?

    The only events he finished last year the others did not due to technical problems and vice versa.
    He was very clearly faster then them. His car let him down every time but it was clear he is faster and he wasn't crashing as well. The managers of big teams are not blind...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Abbring has beaten all in 4WD except Lefebvre but hey let's compare them.

    Both had their 4WD debut in Wales (Abbring 2011, Lefebvre 2014). Abbring WON among non-WRC drivers and finished 12th overall! Lefebvre was nowhere near the top WRC2 guys, finished 11th in WRC2 and 35th overall.

    Second 4WD event for Abbring was Monte Carlo 2012. He again won among non WRC drivers and finished 12th overall! Lefebvre had his second 4WD event this week in Jänner rally where he was again nowhere near the top drivers, later was excluded due to technical problems (not his fault).

    IMHO it's exactly opposite than how You wrote it. Breen, Kajetanowicz, Lukyanuk or Lefebvre must prove themselves against Abbring...
    I said: never compare what they did with 2wd. Never ever said Abbring was slower than Lefevre either. Just pointing there are others too. Not only that Mr Abbring even though I´m curious what he can do with decent drives during 2015.
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