Rallye Monte Carlo 2015

**N.O.T** · 30th December 2014, 10:47

Originally Posted by Mirek

plenty of great drivers in all classes.

the only thing that matters is this...

all the other numbers mean nothing... maybe to some nobody useless hairpin spectators who care more about the machinery rather than the talent behind it...

**Mirek** · 30th December 2014, 10:55

I don't agree with You. Of course the quality of the drivers is the most important but it's still more fun to watch guys in some cars than the same guys in another cars. Of course when You only follow results it doesn't matter but if you spectate live it does. Some cars just appear nicer, louder, more rough. They just look faster even though sometimes they are not. For example Clio R3T is a dull car which is really boring to watch. Gr.N 4WD cars are very boring on Monte stages too. Fiesta R5 isn't much better as well.

**irish_tiger** · 30th December 2014, 12:58

Originally Posted by Mirek

I have been four times to RMC (2009-2012) and I totally don't agree with You. Whenever there was snow it was much more fun to watch than pure asphalt. The snow or ice is boring if it's only few patches and they drive purely asphalt tyres but otherwise it's great fun. It's something completely different to Scandinavian winter rallies but that's why it's unique and fun for me. That's also why I enjoyed 2010 IRC edition the most and 2012 WRC edition the least. Without snow it's just another asphalt event. Also with the snow it's much more fun for spectators. You can build snowmen, fight with snowballs etc. When it's just cold or rain You just wait for hours...

Are you going to the 2015 Rally ?

**Mirek** · 30th December 2014, 12:59

No, I have promised to go skiing with some friends in the same time.

**N.O.T** · 30th December 2014, 13:07

Originally Posted by Mirek

I don't agree with You. Of course the quality of the drivers is the most important but it's still more fun to watch guys in some cars than the same guys in another cars. Of course when You only follow results it doesn't matter but if you spectate live it does. Some cars just appear nicer, louder, more rough. They just look faster even though sometimes they are not. For example Clio R3T is a dull car which is really boring to watch. Gr.N 4WD cars are very boring on Monte stages too. Fiesta R5 isn't much better as well.

every time i see a tourist in a proper car something inside me dies a horrible death... a useless tourist is a sad spectacle in a proper car something like a masterless dog run over by a tractor...

when it comes to village folk events then the type of cars matters but when it comes to the WRC the tourists should drive something more appropriate to their lives.

**PLuto** · 30th December 2014, 13:15

Originally Posted by Ounin

From all the fuss that had been created by the Toyota rumours and its drivers, clearly Camilli is the one that actually has a drive in the Monte, I think it will be a very interesting weekend to see how he gets on in the EMAP-YACCO team in a R5 car and how he will cope with Maurin, who will be benchmarked for Camilli's times. Well done. Unfortunately it's all speculation.
Now let's see what they will do with Abbring, or let's see what Toyotas OFFICIAL PLANS ARE... May clearness come very very soon.

I think that Camilli's start on Monte has nothing to do with Toyota, he was planning to do Monte in R5/S2000 few weeks before this rumours started...

**Ounin** · 30th December 2014, 13:43

I said it was all speculation, that's why silly season is called 'silly season'

He already must have had a budget few weeks ago...

MJW · 30th December 2014, 14:43

Originally Posted by N.O.T

every time i see a tourist in a proper car something inside me dies a horrible death... a useless tourist is a sad spectacle in a proper car something like a masterless dog run over by a tractor...

when it comes to village folk events then the type of cars matters but when it comes to the WRC the tourists should drive something more appropriate to their lives.

you mean yachts?

**Mirek** · 30th December 2014, 14:47

Originally Posted by N.O.T

every time i see a tourist in a proper car something inside me dies a horrible death... a useless tourist is a sad spectacle in a proper car something like a masterless dog run over by a tractor...

when it comes to village folk events then the type of cars matters but when it comes to the WRC the tourists should drive something more appropriate to their lives.

I didn't say anything about tourists.