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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan View Post
    So , why would he bother saying anything other than something controversial , because , as he says in the article , only the bad news gets any time in the press anyway ?
    I don't agree with that. I read the news, and the editorial comments, bad news is only one facet of what I read, so someone is publishing it. I suspect that there are a lot of others that do the same.
    Sorry mate!
    May the forza be with you

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    He's right , though , Taz .

    There's a load of sites that have picked up those words , because they sound so controversial .

    I don't believe for a second that Bernie doesn't know how to take advantage of the modern world .
    He mentions that other devices are taking the place of TV .
    He's got sites like this very one , where people yack about his sport all the time .
    He's got all the teams tweeting their faces off .

    All are free advertising , or revenue stream , or both .

    And , he fires off an "I'm a dinosaur" quote .
    He's more fox than dinosaur , bear .

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    sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry mate
    May the forza be with you

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    I'm with Doc. Nikki Lauda is the obvious pick to me.

    I'm thinking that the right person to front F1 would be a former WDC who has maintained a profile within the sport.

    The list would not be that long and the drivers/sport would be their focus.

    Everything that isn't about the car is admin and that can be done by monkeys in suits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan View Post
    I was more thinking of the other end of the grid , but , point taken .
    The business model is skewed against the new guy .

    But , the manufacturers need something to keep them in check , so a diminishing return on massive investment might be what is needed to get their attention .

    Seals on motors only gets us a championship sealed up by the one maker from the beginning of the season .
    There's two ways you can look at F1. 1) In isolation to the rest of motorsport, and 2) as a part of the whole motorsport world.

    If you look at it from 1) then it's easy. You can place as many rules as you like to create a result.

    But if you look at it from 2), which is what it is. Then you'd have to accept that it's the designated leading motorsport competition, and you can't have restrictions that'll work. You can't put ceiling to cover the sky. You have to let teams spend all the money they want to. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.

    This is where, the longer I've been interested in motorsport, the more impressed I'm am with Volkswagen Group. Between Le Mans and the WRC. They have all their credibility and promotion covered, spending a fraction of what manufacturers in F1 do. The "brand" even trade off on F1 media, talking them up, wanting them to enter F1. Never mind all the Touring car stuff they did before that (Audi were the best overall in TC).

    Geniuses.

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    Wouldn't taking off the seals allow for them to spend their faces off , but , at them same time , if customers were mandated , allow for the customers to be able to compete ?

    It's doesn't fix a cap , and guarantees more support from the front of the grid for the back of the grid .

    Perhaps Caterham , if they survive , could be the second Honda on the grid .

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    Without a cost cap, I believe the sport is increasingly doomed. Sadly, a cost cap would be completely unworkable and unenforceable. The truth is that no-one, least of all the set-in-his-ways Ecclestone and the non-motorsport people who own F1, knows how best to respond.

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    I'm saying the problem is not the cost. It's their money. But there are clearly too many regulations restricting movement. Allowing for some details I'm not aware of, it these constricting regs which contribute to the cost. Everybody has to do everything, and everything has to be the same.

    Was it necessary to have everyone use these current turbos? Renault debuted their turbo in the 77 British GP, but it wasn't til the 84 Austrian GP that the whole field used turbos. Nobody thought of a phasing in period? Even if the turbos were performance deficient, you could make allowances. But no, everybody wants a parity class.

    You can't make the big teams spend less. You have to find ways to make it reasonable to participate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan View Post







    And , he fires off an "I'm a dinosaur" quote .
    He's more fox than dinosaur , bear .
    His schtick has gotten realllllllllllly old, and retarded. Enough so for McLaren to feel compelled to refute this idiotic comment..... squirrel.
    http://autoweek.com/article/formula-...-young-f1-fans
    May the forza be with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazio View Post
    His schtick has gotten realllllllllllly old, and retarded. Enough so for McLaren to feel compelled to refute this idiotic comment..... squirrel.
    http://autoweek.com/article/formula-...-young-f1-fans
    Ah , my favourite fuzzy forest dwelling friend , Mac made the perfect response to Bernie's "We don't need them" with a "Yes we do" .

    He just showed you that he does , indeed , know how to make the intertwitterweb work .

    Wander out of that forest , bear , so you can see the trees .

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