Rally Wrc France-Alsace 2014

**noel157** · 5th October 2014, 20:19

Citroen Racing day 3 report: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6rutdijMjs

**KKS** · 5th October 2014, 20:36

Sorry for offtopic but I have a question...

Did a WRC2014 spec car have an ABS? (I know that modern WRC have, old one(C4,Xsara) - no)
a) If yes - how explain 4 wheels lock-up for Mikkelsen in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eytDhBFtJ0 ?
b) if no - how explain characteristic sound from ABS 1:34 from this video http://youtu.be/g9rzJkbQCtU?t=1m34s ?

**Juha_Koo** · 5th October 2014, 20:39

ABS in WRCs? I heavily doubt that... Almost 100% can say that no ABS in them. IMHO the sound at 1:34 comes always in unusually tight brakings when the engine is in danger to suffocate...

**stefanvv** · 5th October 2014, 20:42

Originally Posted by dimviii

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=qwdegzGAZ2g

Small quiz - who was more risky here?

**KKS** · 5th October 2014, 20:45

Originally Posted by makinen_fan

Incar from Kubica's exit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDb79Fzs8g

Wrong line and he tried to correct I think

I think a driving style. He too much wobble a car (finding grip limit?) and at right corner he find him. Why not drive smooth?
Evans with scared eyes drive more smoothly than Kubica

**stefanvv** · 5th October 2014, 20:49

Originally Posted by KKS

Sorry for offtopic but I have a question...

Did a WRC2014 spec car have an ABS? (I know that modern WRC have, old one(C4,Xsara) - no)
a) If yes - how explain 4 wheels lock-up for Mikkelsen in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eytDhBFtJ0 ?
b) if no - how explain characteristic sound from ABS 1:34 from this video http://youtu.be/g9rzJkbQCtU?t=1m34s ?

No electronic ABS for sure. The sound from Citroen is probably from the diff, he had some problems with it.

**br21** · 5th October 2014, 20:50

no ABS in WRC cars

**KKS** · 5th October 2014, 20:55

Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

ABS in WRCs? I heavily doubt that... Almost 100% can say that no ABS in them.

Hm , I ask myself few years ago this question and found in internet that 97'-10' WRC doesn't have and 11'- cars have it. But now look to FIA reg. and...

Any electronic driving aid system is prohibited (ABS / ASR /
is prohibited (ABS / ASR / EPS...)

**stefanvv** · 5th October 2014, 21:02

Originally Posted by makinen_fan

Incar from Kubica's exit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDb79Fzs8g

Wrong line and he tried to correct I think

Poor Kubica & his fans. BTW looks a lot like MC exit.

**dimviii** · 5th October 2014, 22:22

Originally Posted by KKS

b) if no - how explain characteristic sound from ABS 1:34 from this video http://youtu.be/g9rzJkbQCtU?t=1m34s ?

this noise is from drivetrain when blocking the wheels with brakes with some gear engaged.
No abs at wrc cars,impossible to brake at loose surfaces and bumpy roads(gravel/mud/snow/wet tarmac etc)