Coates Hire WRC Rally Australia 2014 11th-14th Sept

[stefanvv]

[Franky]

As well as TAnak who´s crashing all the time.

Isn't it like a second off-road accident this year?

[satnav]

Mikelsen had a penalty in POland because of this, so it is nothing with Vw...Please don t make escuses, VW is in Another planet in what concernes of performance

Mikelsen's penalty in Poland was a money fine €5000 , no time penalty , no consistency......

[satnav]

Tanak had a big off , he's being kept in hospital overnight as a precaution

[noel157]

Tanak had a big off , he's being kept in hospital overnight as a precaution

That's looks a massive impact. The worst type of accident, sideways into a tree. Glad Ott should be ok.

[A FONDO]

Mikelsen's penalty in Poland was a money fine €5000 , no time penalty , no consistency......

Yeah but when infrigements are becoming more often, penalties should become harsher...

[bluuford]

Isn't it like a second off-road accident this year?

7 rallies with no crashes.. number of mechanical failiures (powersteering, 2WD, turbo).

[Franky]

Yeah but when infringements are becoming more often, penalties should become harsher...

The main concern here isn't the fact that (short)cutting is penalised but that there are no proper ground rules and the penalties are completely random.

[janvanvurpa]

Funny talk about the cutting.

The decision is completely in line with the age-old rule in rallying: competitors must follow the route shown in the road book.

I am not fully awake BUT In English route does NOT mean "where you place the car at any given moment here or there. It means a number of related things

where the word came from:

early 13c., from Old French rute "road, way, path" (12c.), from Latin rupta (via) "(a road) opened by force," from rupta, fem. past participle of rumpere "to break" (see rupture (n.)). Sense of "fixed or regular course for carrying things" (as in mail route) is 1792, an extension of the meaning "customary path of animals" (early 15c.).

Next is how its generally understood or used currently:

route

- definition

1
a way that buses, trains, ships, or airplanes travel regularly
a bus/shipping/trading route

Thesaurus entry for this meaning of route
a.
the roads or paths that you use when you go from one place to anotherIt's a good idea to plan your route before you leave.

route to: We took an alternative route to the hotel.

route from: The most direct route from the house to the school is through the center of town.

take/follow a route: The tunnel is the route taken by most drivers.

the shortest/quickest/most direct route: The sea was the most direct route between the two cities.

When I hear, or use the word route I mean like this: "to get to my house the route you take is South on I-5 to Highway 518, go West to 2nd exit.
At STOP sign go 90 left, then flat for 3 lights then 90 R ----> flat 2 blocks, 90 L --> first street 90R+ first house on R+ Finish.


Or to use clearly "The route to Moscow goes via Warsawa, Smolensk, then Borodino,



The language of "Must stay to/on the prescribed route" in no way hints or implies or even whispers anything about just where you position the car . Not should you drive the CAR in the middle of the road, over to one side --hopefully-- or on the shoulder..No hint at all...

[Juha_Koo]

The language of "Must stay to/on the prescribed route" in no way hints or implies or even whispers anything about just where you position the car .in the middle of the road, over to one side --hopefully-- or on the shoulder..No hint at all...

Well, anyone can go into the semantics. Organizers were aware of the possibility for some big cuts and hence, the issue was addressed in Bulletin No1 :

"2. Deviation from formed Roadway
Competitors are advised that the compulsory itinerary of the rally is deemed to follow the
defined roadway and that significant deviations from the roadway will be treated as a
breach of FIA WRC Regulations Art. 14.2. The organisers may erect barriers or any
other hindrances where they believe competitors have deviated from the roadway during
reconnaissance or the first running of the stages."

I hope that is clear enough for you.