Whats going to Happen at Mercedes

[Doc Austin]

If they were puttering about in formation 2 seconds a lap clear of everyone how much fun would that be?

[henners88]

Lewis said this :
"Nico and I accept that we have both made mistakes and I feel it would be wrong to point fingers and say which one is worse than the other. "

That's what the stewards said , too , basically .

'We've both made mistakes' doesn't necessarily mean Lewis is accepting any fault in the Spa incident. To mean it suggests this season as a whole and they are looking at the wider picture.

Having read that quote it I didn't interpret it the same as yourself. It doesn't support the Lewis didn't leave enough room argument because it's worded too loosely. They've both been pushing each other off track all season and I think it refers to mistakes made so far.

[truefan72]

'We've both made mistakes' doesn't necessarily mean Lewis is accepting any fault in the Spa incident. To mean it suggests this season as a whole and they are looking at the wider picture.

Having read that quote it I didn't interpret it the same as yourself. It doesn't support the Lewis didn't leave enough room argument because it's worded too loosely. They've both been pushing each other off track all season and I think it refers to mistakes made so far.

yup, well said

and this should further clear things up

http://en.espnf1.com/mercedes/motors...ry/173031.html
Rosberg issues apology to Hamilton, Mercedes and fans

But I'm sure some guys on this forum will still try and twist it into Hamilton being equally to blame lol
nevermind that Rosberg has been punished for the incident
http://en.espnf1.com/mercedes/motors...ry/173017.html

[journeyman racer]

Yawn.

[Bagwan]

'We've both made mistakes' doesn't necessarily mean Lewis is accepting any fault in the Spa incident. To mean it suggests this season as a whole and they are looking at the wider picture.

Having read that quote it I didn't interpret it the same as yourself. It doesn't support the Lewis didn't leave enough room argument because it's worded too loosely. They've both been pushing each other off track all season and I think it refers to mistakes made so far.

Exactly to what it refers is nebulous , and I believe it was intended as such , so as not to open the discussion of specifics .
And , that's ok , simply because this , and Nico's statement were attempts by both to end the speculation .

What is very clear , though , is that there are still many people pointing fingers at Nico , despite Lewis stating it is wrong .


One of Nico's strengths in this was also perhaps one of the things that had him beaten up a bit more than he might have been .
His insistence that he keep the opinions between himself and the team has hurt him here .

With no juicy quotes out there to counter , Nico was generally flailed in the press and on message boards like this one , called a "clumsy cheater" .


Lewis refers to Nico having made "mistakes" , and not clumsy cheating .
He's not saying "He hit me on purpose" any more .


Nico , I believe , fully understands that putting his car where he did to make his point was not the best course of action .
He went for the apex knowing full well that Lewis would do the same .

Not pointing fingers suggests that Lewis got the point .

[Doc Austin]

But I'm sure some guys on this forum will still try and twist it into Hamilton being equally to blame lol
nevermind that Rosberg has been punished for the incident
http://en.espnf1.com/mercedes/motors...ry/173017.html

The statement added that "suitable disciplinary measures have been taken for the incident", although details were not given.

In other words, probably nothing.

[dj_bytedisaster]

yup, well said

and this should further clear things up

http://en.espnf1.com/mercedes/motors...ry/173031.html
Rosberg issues apology to Hamilton, Mercedes and fans

But I'm sure some guys on this forum will still try and twist it into Hamilton being equally to blame lol
nevermind that Rosberg has been punished for the incident
http://en.espnf1.com/mercedes/motors...ry/173017.html

So Rosberg has been blackmailed into an apology andI find it interesting that Rosberg is punished for what even Hamilton's main brown-noser Lauda called a 'racing incident'. Yet disobeying team orders in Hungary and leaking team internals to the press at Spa by Hamilton weren't quite worthy of 'disciplinary action'. They basically sent Nico a letter: 'Sorry Nico, we can't allow you to win the title and we will make sure you don't'. That's all this is about.

[Doc Austin]

So Rosberg has been blackmailed into an apology andI find it interesting that Rosberg is punished for what even Hamilton's main brown-noser Lauda called a 'racing incident'.

Now, they are calling it a "racing incident," but that is nothing more than a fall back position. You might remember that initially both Lauda and Wolff were furious with Rosberg.

This is exactly what I said would happen from the first day in post #7:.

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They are putting on the happy face and pretending everything is fine, but it's hard to believe they see it as a "racing incident" in light of how big of a stink it made and the fact they had to do something about it.

Yet disobeying team orders in Hungary and leaking team internals to the press at Spa by Hamilton weren't quite worthy of 'disciplinary action'.

Both of these guys have been disobeying team orders almost from the beginning. Both used the wrong engine maps against team orders, Hamilton would not move over in Hungary, etc. There is probably even more stuff we don't know about. If you add in Rosberg's "mistake" at Monoco and the supposed "racing incident" at Spa, both drivers have been behaving pretty badly.

They basically sent Nico a letter: 'Sorry Nico, we can't allow you to win the title and we will make sure you don't'. That's all this is about.

With the money and work that is on the line here, Mercedes would be crazed to do anything that would affect Nico's chances. Once both championships are put away, maybe, but at least for right now, Nico is 29 points into the championship lead. They would be out of their minds to do anything but give him everything they have.

It's a too little early for Mercedes to to shoot themselves in both feet, though I have every confidence they will eventually do so.

[truefan72]

Yawn.

a likely response from someone who has no leg to stand on and can;t even man up and accept that from Mercedes GP and Nico, wrongdoing was accpeted and punished.
oh well, it was to be expected.

[henners88]

So Rosberg has been blackmailed into an apology andI find it interesting that Rosberg is punished for what even Hamilton's main brown-noser Lauda called a 'racing incident'. Yet disobeying team orders in Hungary and leaking team internals to the press at Spa by Hamilton weren't quite worthy of 'disciplinary action'. They basically sent Nico a letter: 'Sorry Nico, we can't allow you to win the title and we will make sure you don't'. That's all this is about.

Well there is two scenarios with this one. Either Nico felt after reviewing the incident that he was to blame and took responsibility for it. Or he accepted blame because the team wanted him to. I know how strongly you feel about drivers obeying the team as you made clear after Hungary, so I'm surprised you'd have an issue with scenario two even if that was the case. It was pretty clear cut to me and I think most drivers would hold their hands up after that one.