Arizona shooting range accident

[Storm]

Yes , sitting in a car being driven by an adult and actually driving a car are different things aren't they?

[steveaki13]

Don't understand that argument. A 9 year old is not permitted to operate a motor vehicle.

I agree.

Guns have there place, but In my opinion it is not even in the hands of common people, let alone a 9 year old.

I agree with our laws in the UK, we have one of the lowest gun death rates in the world I believe.

I also never stated it was the guns fault. Its the country that lets people buy and own guns so easy thats the problem.

I admire the US in a lot of ways, but the laws on guns are crazy

[steveaki13]

Yes , sitting in a car being driven by an adult and actually driving a car are different things aren't they?

Its any defence to protect the precious guns. Every home needs at least 3.

Seriously it astounds me.

Why any non licensed professional needs a gun is beyond me. There is a hunting argument, but even that should be on a license basis and not for sport, but control of animal numbers or hunting for food.

[steveaki13]

Based on the above, a 9 year old shouldn't be in a car either.

I agree. Countries which allow 9 years olds to drive on the roads are a disgrace

[steveaki13]

No you don't understand. It's always the gun's fault...always. Never the person who (mis)uses it.

Don't think anyone claimed that did they?

Its the fault of a country that lets anyone of its population own and buy guns. Especially as 95% probably shouldn't be trusted with a gun.

[555-04Q2]

My father started teaching me to fire a gun (namely a 38 Special and a .22 rifle) from when I was 6 years old. The practice and skills I learnt helped save my life a few years back.

Now I'm not advocating that all kids should be firing guns, but in a controlled environment with suitable guns it is perfectly safe. An Uzi, in auto mode, was a poor choice for a 9 year old to be firing.

[Starter]

Don't think anyone claimed that did they?

Its the fault of a country that lets anyone of its population own and buy guns. Especially as 95% probably shouldn't be trusted with a gun.

That's the major difference in philosophy between most of Europe and the US. Here the government doesn't "let" the population do anything. It's the population which "lets" the government do things.

On a secondary note, approximately 45% of US citizens own guns. So you are saying that 38,475,000 of those who do own guns can't be trusted? (Based on an estimated 300 million population.) That's a pretty large number of folks you've throw under the bus. Be very careful when making large sweeping statements, hyperbola tends to creep in.

[Starter]

Now I'm not advocating that all kids should be firing guns, but in a controlled environment with suitable guns it is perfectly safe. An Uzi, in auto mode, was a poor choice for a 9 year old to be firing.

A failure in the instructor's individual judgement, not in the use of guns themselves.

[555-04Q2]

That's the major difference in philosophy between most of Europe and the US. Here the government doesn't "let" the population do anything. It's the population which "lets" the government do things.

On a secondary note, approximately 45% of US citizens own guns. So you are saying that 38,475,000 of those who do own guns can't be trusted? (Based on an estimated 300 million population.) That's a pretty large number of folks you've throw under the bus. Be very careful when making large sweeping statements, hyperbola tends to creep in.

You need to remember that Europeans have a different view to people like you and myself as they don't experience what we do. They aren't wrong all the time and we aint always right either

[555-04Q2]

A failure in the instructor's individual judgement, not in the use of guns themselves.

Exactly what I thought when I saw the video. As soon as he said put it in auto i wanted to jump through the screen!