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    Quote Originally Posted by makinen_fan View Post
    Some news by Autosport on the planned changes for 2017
    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115101

    To me if this concept gets the go-ahead it will bring some more interest into the sport. Although the big question is whether the manufacturers will like it to spend money on completely new concepts
    I did not dare in my mind to hope for something so progressive. I like it - A LOT!!! Bigger differences car and engine vise is a huge step in the correct direction IMO.
    If they follow up by limiting suspension travel and tires, I will be happy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lundefaret View Post
    I did not dare in my mind to hope for something so progressive. I like it - A LOT!!! Bigger differences car and engine vise is a huge step in the correct direction IMO.
    If they follow up by limiting suspension travel and tires, I will be happy
    Fuel-flow controlled power is a good idea but D-segment cars is stupid IMHO. Those cars are way too big, around 4,8 meters.
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    You would hope we would see some variety; so a mix of car sizes, engines, etc

    However, it's not just the cars that need sorting; sort the events out, and drop the 'shoot out' garbage......

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    in which segment Celica was?
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack4688` View Post
    Modern day equivalent
    no, it isn't, this is much larger. btw the biggest problem of 200 wasn't its length, but the heavy front.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    in which segment Celica was?
    Celica wasn't exactly related to these general segments. However even if it was it would not be relevant for today because cars are "growing with their owners" from generation to generation. Today's typical segment B car Polo is as big as typical segment C car Golf in its first generation. Octavia I was 4,5 meters long, Octavia III is almost 4,7 meters therefore bigger than most of segment D cars from 20 years a go etc.
    Last edited by Mirek; 23rd July 2014 at 19:17.
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    The 100/200 became the A6, the A7 is just a 5-door 'fastback' version of it. So that image which I happened upon on google is close enough for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    You would hope we would see some variety; so a mix of car sizes, engines, etc

    However, it's not just the cars that need sorting; sort the events out, and drop the 'shoot out' garbage......
    That’s my opinion too. If the manufacturer can choose which kind of engine to use, why not the model. There could be some problems with the weight though. Can even a C-segment car reach the 1200 kg weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack4688` View Post
    The 100/200 became the A6, the A7 is just a 5-door 'fastback' version of it. So that image which I happened upon on google is close enough for me
    According to wikipedia d segmet audis are a4-a5 the most. As Mirek said, these classifications evolve in time. I see nothing wrong with a4 rally version.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldF View Post
    Can even a C-segment car reach the 1200 kg weight?
    Depends on the rules and base model. With recent WRC rules it is certainly difficult but not impossible. When the main trend in car industry was safety cars got pretty heavy but now when all is about fuel consumption and emissions the trend reversed with new cars being reasonably lighter then their predecessors. Especially VW cars on MQB platform are very light. For example Octavia III is approximately 100 kg lighter although it's a lot bigger than second generation (for example 1.6 TDI model has 1280 kg including driver - for a car of 4,7 meters; petrol versions are naturally even lighter).
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