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    Quote Originally Posted by makinen_fan View Post
    I know, but this it the theoretical ideal situation that never happens in reality.
    Actually it is very valuable to cut every complex phenomena into less complicated fundamental processes. If You don't do that You end with a huge equation with million of unknowns for every measurable output.

    Quote Originally Posted by makinen_fan View Post
    But then you can have a situation like this that an underpowered car cannot utilise all of its traction, (because you need power to keep a constant speed around a circle, consider the velocity vector of car turning) if the constant radius circle is large enough... so power does matter
    You need very little power to keep constant speed (in rallying limits), basically only to equalize drag, rolling resistance and power looses in transmission. Every vehicle can reach it's limiting lateral acceleration (or cornering speed on given radius). It doesn't need to be at 200 km/h. It can be at 30 km/h if it's a tight hairpin. Even a tractor can turn so hard that it can't keep a line of constant radius. In the end it really matters if You can do the circle at 28 km/h or at 32 km/h because that is from what You start the power-related process.
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    http://www.rally.it/rally-del-portogallo-verso-il-nord/ if the date move further ahead in the calendar maybe Argentina will be earlier and then we will get the rain there.

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    Now it's official, Rally Portugal 2015 willbe held in the north of the country with Matosinhos city being the HQ for the rally.

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    I hope for an epic event!
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Oh my god They wake up one sleeping giant. Same old stages, same old passion, but with better organazition. It will be epic Can't wait for June 2015.

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    If "Lousada" means SSS of Costilha Eurocircuit (former ERX track) then, for sure, will be epic Nothing like stadiums or streets kids SSS.

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    This is actually VERY GOOD!
    One thing the WRC-promotors has done to get in more money in the short term, but cutting interest in the long run, is in my opinion to stage WRC-rounds in places where there are no spectators, and next to none interest. Jordan etc.
    Northern Portugal is absolutely crazy, in a very very good way, and will be a huge asset.
    Rallying is very big in Eastern Europe, so the WRC-calendar should reflect this. The same with the Nordic countries. Classics such as Corsica and Monte Carlo are very important, and also making new classics in places that people actually care. This is what builds interest.
    To have a succesfull WRC-round in a new market/country, requiers that You build up the interest from the ground up. By both helping the national organizers of the national series, but also letting the countrie get TV-rights,a nd making the TV-broadcasts as spectacular as possible. When one feels that there is enough interest, well then one can stage a WRC-event.
    This should be put to the test in Norther America/USA, where the rallying interest is steadily growing, but where one lacks the experience/means to really make it big.
    Factory teams should visit a round with a WRC driver/car (ex Volkswagen, who is in the market), to create further interest.
    In norhern Portugal the interest for rallying and the WRC-event has epic proportions, and this is places we need to be. Very good!
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    i20 for 2015
    hyundai will unveil new wrc on next October @ Paris motor Show
    interview to Nandan
    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114892

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lundefaret View Post
    This is actually VERY GOOD!
    One thing the WRC-promotors has done to get in more money in the short term, but cutting interest in the long run, is in my opinion to stage WRC-rounds in places where there are no spectators, and next to none interest. Jordan etc.
    Northern Portugal is absolutely crazy, in a very very good way, and will be a huge asset.
    Rallying is very big in Eastern Europe, so the WRC-calendar should reflect this. The same with the Nordic countries. Classics such as Corsica and Monte Carlo are very important, and also making new classics in places that people actually care. This is what builds interest.
    To have a succesfull WRC-round in a new market/country, requiers that You build up the interest from the ground up. By both helping the national organizers of the national series, but also letting the countrie get TV-rights,a nd making the TV-broadcasts as spectacular as possible. When one feels that there is enough interest, well then one can stage a WRC-event.
    This should be put to the test in Norther America/USA, where the rallying interest is steadily growing, but where one lacks the experience/means to really make it big.
    Factory teams should visit a round with a WRC driver/car (ex Volkswagen, who is in the market), to create further interest.
    In norhern Portugal the interest for rallying and the WRC-event has epic proportions, and this is places we need to be. Very good!

    Lundis pojken, intresset i USA has always been "growing" It's been "growing" since I started back in Sten-ĺldern i '84.. Back then our population in country was 233 million and we had total maybe 320 individuals enter an event in the whole country.. Now we have 312 million , and I heard we have 322 individuals who enter a rally..Steady growth.
    One of our better organisers like to analyze things and he studied the constant growing interest i Amerika and found 27% of drivers do ONE event and are never seen again and 43% do 3 events total...
    Yep interest is growing...

    Thatäs what everybody keeps saying...I read it on a forum so it must be true.

    What America needs above all is a visit from some good F+cup guys, and some Swedish GrpH and maybe a couple of you Norskies if you promise to bring 240 Volvbo or maybe some Escorts...

    There was seriously some excitment when we had visit from Ozzie boy Brendon Reeves visited last year and was doing SS times right behind ''America's Rally Super Star'' Ben Clock....by US standards really wonderful aggressive driving which ''nobody could believe''...He was in a nice spec FWD Fiesta 1600 sug motor.

    We need some better yardstick of what the ORDINARY is, not what one or 2 WRC guys can do when they have million dollar per event budget...

    We need-----as per-centage av befolkningen---- 1/10 the participation you have i Norden..

    When our interest has grown to that level, we can re-visit if we need what one guy here calls "the Dubya Arse-y"
    John Vanlandingham
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    http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes...l#.U8ENz5SSyUY a bit of old news but let's hope TMG will follow through.

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