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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkmoon View Post
    I have no problems with team orders and I think F1 is a team sport. Golf is an individual sport. F1 takes hundreds of people behind the scenes and dozens on race day to achieve success. It's the very definition of a team sport.
    F1 isn't a team sport and for that fact almost every racing series worldwide, isnt; a teamsport.
    I do not consider the support staff as part of "the team" anymore than I consider the trainer, waterboy, press secretary, pr manager, massage specialist and team doctor part of the football team.

    In fact in my opinion there is only one type of racing structure that I consider a team and that is the shared drive series like LeMans, and a few others.
    Every other series is about the driver and the car, and if it takes 100 people to setup the car or 10, that doesn't change the nature of the sport.
    car A doing well doesn't depend on car B, and if Car A retires from the race, doesn't mean car B does. they are not a team by any definition.
    In fact, come P1 on Friday, both sides of the garage can actually not need to talk to each other until the chequered flag on Sunday and it would not adversely impact either car.
    It has been and always will be about the drivers. with (what used to be a somewhat irrelevant) Constructors trophy, which F1 teams take way too seriously. The only thing they need to tell their drivers is not to take each other out. It assumes that 2 professional drivers would not be capable of minding each pther when they have to do so for 20 other competitors. SMH

    Like I said, the individual efforts of the drivers is what ultimately earns the trophy and not some sort of strategy.
    And even the term "team orders" is slightly misused. because in 99% of the situations it is not about helping the team but more about aiding a particular driver, usually to the detriment of the other. Giving up your car for the designated #1 driver is not helping the team. it is helping Ascari. or Schumacher, and all those strategies were to benefit MSC and not necessarily Ferrari.

    It has been proven several times over that a team can succeed without team orders if they have a solid car and decent drivers. Senna/Prost Alonso/Hamilton Rosberg/Hamilton Hill/Villeneuve Prost/Hill...etc
    just by default they will win the WCC.
    Last edited by truefan72; 1st August 2014 at 16:58.
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