Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2013

[A FONDO]

if they want to get rid of superrally, they should reintroduce flying service.
give people the chance to repair some damage after each stage, so they don't have to quit due to 1 small mistake.

Let me guess, you are video games fan?

[Mintexmemory]

When WRC events had over 150 entrants including at least 20 potential winners then retirement was acceptable. The field of less than 50 cars with only 13 total WRC is not going to be attractive to tv and hence in turn will further dissuade manufacturers. There are more than the number of entrants and SR involved in this problem but ending SR without allowing the sort of servicing time and opportunities that used to make for heroic stories of determination would be counter-productive.

[Munkvy]

At regional level here in New Zealand, if you DNF a stage, you can rejoin at certain later points in the rally like a service area exit control. You however aren't classified as a finisher, and regardless of your stage times, the results classify you behind those who completed all stages.

In my opinion as a back of the field regional competitor, this works well - as it allows you to continue to compete, even though you aren't classified. At least this way you can still get some stage miles, which is often what we are after as we realise we won't win our class or the rally.

[MR666]

Not a fan of super rally, Mr Loeb I think would have 1 less championship had it not been around.

[rjbetty]

At regional level here in New Zealand, if you DNF a stage, you can rejoin at certain later points in the rally like a service area exit control. You however aren't classified as a finisher, and regardless of your stage times, the results classify you behind those who completed all stages.

In my opinion as a back of the field regional competitor, this works well - as it allows you to continue to compete, even though you aren't classified. At least this way you can still get some stage miles, which is often what we are after as we realise we won't win our class or the rally.

YES this is what I've been thinking for so long! I think it's wrong that works cars can retire then still score points. It deprives privateers who are trying to get a foothold in the sport a chance to make their mark and score points. However I understand that the FIA, in order to disguise the shocking state of the WRC (which I hold them responsible for, largely by getting rid of 3 cars then adding expensive rallies), they have to allow this rule to make the fields seem less sparse.

The solution above I think offers the best of both worlds. Cars can rejoin and gain experience, and the fans can still see their heroes! Yet it will be fair to the plucky privateers who have made the effort to stay on the road and look after their car - that also seems very SPORTING!

The FIA could of course simply undo the changes that caused the WRC to jump the shark in the first place rather than resort to artificial gimmicks...

[Rally Hokkaido]

I think the SuperRally rule has been discussed many times on this forum since it was introduced. Here is a brief history of how it came about:
1/ WRC promoter concerned with lack of manufacturers' car entries
2/ FIA proposed SuperRALLY as used in APRC, etc (possible leg points but no overall classification for re-starters)
3/ WRC Manufacturers rejected proposal as not enough incentive to re-start
4/ All the above compromised and WRC version of Super Rally was born
5/ FIA modified Super Rally rule a couple of times and even re-named it Rally 2

I wonder how the new manufacturer would vote (see point 3/ above) if the Super Rally issue was debated at an FIA meeting this year?

[vino_93]

maybe the new regulations in ERC are a test for the future of WRC ? It would be the best thing to satisfy all the people ... only crews who finished are classified, and other can restart and take points day, so organizers and promotors would be happy.

[Mirek]

This system has been used in ERC for maybe five years already. it has been also used in some national championships (Czech for example)

[Kielder]

Ready for Monte:

[stefanvv]

Nobody would need Super Rally if teams were running 3 cars.