[IRC] 2012 Tour de Corse

[N.O.T]

Sordo WRC level, yes, Mikkelsen also it's more and more prooved. Basso was in pair so you downgrade too much this series.

For s2000 cars mikkelsen, Basso, hanninen and some more from the IRC are top....in a WRC car and level of competition is a different story...and usually not a successful one.

See the results for Al attyiah, tanak for example and Neuville...

IRC is a very good base with some great talent, but in order to be WRC level you have to evolve from the IRC driving.

[Viking]

The people driving at the top places in the IRC are no tourists, they probably work as much (or perhaps even more) as the "stars" in the WRC, to achieve their goals...

Ola Fløene (Mikkelsen's co driver) said somewhere that he would be 300 days away from home this year, in addition to all IRC rounds and testing they do 5-6 rounds in WRC and recce on most others.

[N.O.T]

Tanak never drove IRC. Al Attiyah only few times and that in the event he knew most from all drivers... In the perspective that the IRC has a good base for drivers to evolve to the WRC, I think you're right. The only thing I have a problem with is that you call it "a ladycup", it lacks respect. The people driving at the top places in the IRC are no tourists, they probably work as much (or perhaps even more) as the "stars" in the WRC, to achieve their goals... Do you call everything that's not the best bad or stupid? In most of the cases you're right, but I'm not surprised that some people on this forum dislike (and/or ignore) you, you write everything in a way that it's almost offensive.

i refered to tanak and al attyaih because they faced hanninen in PWRC with good results...

Calling IRC ladycup is as offensive as claiming that IRC is equal to WRC... wording it is where we differ...it is called sense of humor.

[Adler]

For me main problem for the step up from top-class (IRC) to world-class (WRC) is the different character of the rallyes....roughly said IRC is a tarmac cup, WRC is a gravel cup, in this respect I think Neuvilles performance is very good, and it is just a matter of time until he can fight for podiums...

back to topic:
Andi Aigner is very happy with his first outing in the Impreza, he said he was never pushing at all, just adjusted his speed to his main-rivals (other production cars, his order was clearly to win this class, not more or less), and used the event to try different setups and learn the cars performance...

IRC: Korsika-Rallye - 2012 - Rallye - motorline.cc

Teamboss Manfred Stohl was also very pleased with the result, next rallye for Aigner will be Ypres...

[pucky54]

My photos can be found here: Autosport

[JAM]

I dont' agree. If you see the fastest times of the rally are mainly S2000 Skodas and Peugeots. The Mini for me is one step behind for now, maybe due to the weight as Dani appointed but i'm sure that without a driver like Dani driving the Mini the winner would be in a different car.

For me this rally showed that works Skodas mainly are still faster than the Mini at least. Not enough stages to compare with Fiesta RRC unfortunately.

The Mini is at the same level as Skodas and Peugeot's. Now we need to confirme this in a gravel event.

Sordo is a top WRC-level driver, but was in a car almost new to him and with some km of tests in a demanding event as this, and facing competition from drivers that know theis cars (Basso was exception) and know the roads very well, having made the rally last year.

The Fiesta RRC also show good speed.

[Mirek]

Sordo is a top WRC-level driver, but was in a car almost new to him and with some km of tests in a demanding event as this, and facing competition from drivers that know theis cars (Basso was exception) and know the roads very well, having made the rally last year.

New for him? Get real, he has done thousands of kilometers in Mini. The S2000 variant differs only in engine performance and less aerodynamic grip. Also Sordo did Corsica more times than IRC drivers before 2012 (Kopecký 4x, Basso 1x 11 years a go, Mikkelsen 3x), Sordo did Corsica 5x. Also Sordo is No.2 world driver on asphalt and if the car was on pair with other cars he would have to win quite easy. That's not my feeling from the event although the early problems for Basso and Mikkelsen didn't get so much comparison. And there is one point. The Mini S2000 is way more expensive to run that 207 or Fabia S2000.

[A FONDO]

If somebody missed it (like me)

IRC Rally Tour de Corse 2012 - SS10 Live - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK_B_HoNZWU

[JAM]

New for him? Get real, he has done thousands of kilometers in Mini. The S2000 variant differs only in engine performance and less aerodynamic grip. Also Sordo did Corsica more times than IRC drivers before 2012 (Kopecký 4x, Basso 1x 11 years a go, Mikkelsen 3x), Sordo did Corsica 5x. Also Sordo is No.2 world driver on asphalt and if the car was on pair with other cars he would have to win quite easy. That's not my feeling from the event although the early problems for Basso and Mikkelsen didn't get so much comparison. And there is one point. The Mini S2000 is way more expensive to run that 207 or Fabia S2000.

To have done Corsica by the last time 4 years ago, is not the same as doing it last year. But ok...

The Mini S2000 is not exactly the same as the WRC. Is not a question of changing a wing and reducing power. There's a lot work to be done. But ok.

The future will show how things will be.

By the way and talking about the RRC prices. More than 500.000 Euros by a Fiesta RRC?!?!!? The Mini must be at the same level... this people are being completely crazy!

[Mirek]

By the way and talking about the RRC prices. More than 500.000 Euros by a Fiesta RRC?!?!!? The Mini must be at the same level... this people are being completely crazy!

I meant running cost. From what I heard from people having their own 207, Fabia and Mini it's a big difference.