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    Quote Originally Posted by skc
    Daniel is correct.

    Why are tyres subject to such draconian restrictions? I can understand why there ios a standard ECU (To stop all teams cheating basically!!) but with tyres, they should just say a size and let each team work with which supplier they want.

    If we also allow different compounds between front and back tyres, I think we could slash the amount of required Aero and keep the same speeds.
    On the other hand... competition is much closer now. In the days of tyre wars, there were often seasons where if you weren't on the preferred tyre, then you had no chance. Or even if you were on the preferred tyre, but that manufacturer was focusing their development around another team. Control tyres remove a variable from the mix and create a more level playing field. Whether that's a good thing is open to debate of course.
    I'm sure it reduces costs substantially as well, which I suspect is the main reason why most high-profile race series have moved to control tyre regulations.

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    On the other hand - looking after tyres is something that Jenson is amongst the best at doing :-]]]
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    Idiots at work again.
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    Tyre choice is a skill and mixes things up more.
    Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.

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    I'd rather let them bring multiple compounds and allowing teams to run on whatever they want whenever they want, instead of forcing teams to run on unfavourable tyres. It brings another element of unpredictability into the races, which is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyL
    Easier said than done though. There would be a very fine balance point where the soft and hard tyres are comparable over a race distance. If the tyre manufacturer didn't hit it perfectly, then all the teams' simulations would tell them which one was faster and everyone would end up on the same strategy. Which I guess was why the FIA felt they needed to force the teams to use both tyres.
    Now this is the big problem with everything in F1 (they've got just too damn smart for their own good!). I had written a long piece on this in my original post but ended up deleting it.

    The general gist was that, yes, the compounds would need to be engineered to be similar over a race distance total time or else as you say everyone would figure out the optimum. The other option (IMO) is to starve the number crunchers of information. Perhaps remove or restrict telemetry (hmmmm can of worms that one) or have an intermediate compound tyre that won't be used on race day allowing set up and general data gathering but still making it a punt based on driver feeling.
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    Thing is though, in recent years a three or even four-stopper was usually theoretically fastest. And yet you only rarely saw three stops, and virtually never four. Why? Track position - the risk of getting bottled up in a race ruining Trulli-train scenario behind a one-stopper was far too high.

    And - for that exact reason - if you balance things on a knife-edge between X-stops or Y-stops, leading teams will almost ALWAYS choose the option with fewer stops, even if more stops is nominally faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theugsquirrel
    I'd rather let them bring multiple compounds and allowing teams to run on whatever they want whenever they want, instead of forcing teams to run on unfavourable tyres. It brings another element of unpredictability into the races, which is good.
    I think thats a good idea. The only logisticl issue would be the massive quantity of tyres that would have to be brought to every grand prix for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henners88
    Indeed, but as you say he has the problem of being a tenth slower than Hamilton in qualifying of late. There is also the issue of Lewis being pretty dandy at conserving his tyres in recent races as there is more pressure for drivers to adopt a conservative approach with fewer pitstops this season. Jenson is good at looking after his tyres but Lewis is not far behind in that aspect.
    All top drivers adapt to situations - I have already discounted that. The tyre issue is now closed.

    The Mclaren drivers are pretty well matched and this is why Whitmarsh signed Jenson. It is the teams primary goal to win the Conatructors title this year.

    The driver's title is all well and good, but Ron Dennis wants the Constructors more, as does Dietrich Mateschitsz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateDanGTR
    ...by changing the compounds of tyres on supply in the next 5 grands prix, that in theory will make things more interesting like in canada.

    well done on bridgestones part, should make F1 even more entertaining. providing the choices are right ofcourse for the particular track for the tyres to not quite be as optimum as could be.

    link:
    http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/06/2...xciting-races/


    okay let me be serially serious...
    bad tires are not enough....

    also need to have the pavement being in poor shape...maybe have a few m1 tanks run down the pavement,,,wash the track down with some chicken fried grease from the stove...

    but on the other hand,


    Quote Originally Posted by ioan
    What a load o crap F1 is becoming. An expensive load of crap on top of that.


    .....and they could take that load of crap and spread it around, as well.......
    Only the dead know the end of war. Plato:beer:

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