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    Quote Originally Posted by Malllen
    Honourable mention to Schumacher, who should have been much further up, even with 3 pitstops.


    Why not try to win the race on 4 stops or something along the lines?

    Can't you come up with anything better to slag him off? Pathetic.
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    Same as most

    Webber he seemed to be trying way to hard and in the end made several mistakes.
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    Webber. Although whilst all of the driving mistakes where his fault, he wasn't helped by being left to hang out to dry with the first set of tyre changes. That put him back in the pack having to try and get past people, when he'd already managed to get himself behind Vettel after his poor start.

    I have to say after today's performance I've lost any belief that Mark can ever really be a contender. I'm sure he'll win a race or two this year as the Red Bull is obviously a rocket, but that will be about it.

    Feel sorry for Vettel. He's being severely let down by his equipment thus far. When's his contract up at RBR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ST205GT4
    Webber. Although whilst all of the driving mistakes where his fault, he wasn't helped by being left to hang out to dry with the first set of tyre changes. That put him back in the pack having to try and get past people, when he'd already managed to get himself behind Vettel after his poor start.

    I have to say after today's performance I've lost any belief that Mark can ever really be a contender. I'm sure he'll win a race or two this year as the Red Bull is obviously a rocket, but that will be about it.
    They can't change tires on both car in the same time so the one who's in front get's the choice of being first, tough luck for lil' Oz donkey but he needs to get himself into that position first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan
    Somehow Renault and Mercedes managed to release their drivers no matter the traffic. Rosberg was 2 seconds behind Massa when they went into the pits and he came out 1 second in front of him. 3 seconds id a lot of time lost there.



    C'mon Hawk Lewis didn't manage to get past the Renault even though he had a speed advantage on the straights, how could Alonso get past him especially that he was probably not much faster than Massa?



    To be fair from the overhead replay it was obvious that Webber somehow didn't realize that he was going way to fast given the situation, totally his fault.
    The BBC pitlane reporter said Ferrari had to hold Massa up because they couldn't release him into traffic. That's bad luck and nothing to do with poor performance by the crew. With that many cars in the pitlane it was a lottery as to when the car could be released.

    Alonso was faster than Massa all weekend. If Ferrari moved him ahead of Massa straight after the stops then I think Alonso would have a better shot at Kubica because he was clearly happier with the car.

    I'm not upset that they didn't pull team orders, it's too early in the season for that but it's hard to argue that Alonso wouldn't have had a better shot at winning than Massa.

    I acknowledged it was Webber's fault. I just don't think it was that bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan


    Why not try to win the race on 4 stops or something along the lines?

    Can't you come up with anything better to slag him off? Pathetic.
    He won once with 4 stops, hence the high expectations LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan
    They can't change tires on both car in the same time so the one who's in front get's the choice of being first, tough luck for lil' Oz donkey but he needs to get himself into that position first.
    Obviously. However, instead of falling asleep at the wheel RBR management should have had Vettel in the same lap as the rest of the field, not a lap later. And therefore Mark two laps later.
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    At least Webber was trying to overtake people and make the most of a strategy that in hindsight wasn't the right one, albeit marked by mistakes that led to him having to attempt to do the hard work all over again.
    Not saying, that it wasn't worth the McLaren, Red Bull, Mercedes and Toro Rosso teams attempting the two stop strategy. It was well worth a go but didn't work today. Even if it was down to the characteristics of the car/driver that led the teams feeling they had to make the decision. Just hope the fact it didn;t work today doesn;t discourage teams from trying the same type of thing in picture. I fear there will be a lot of boring races this season if teams always choose similar strategies

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    I agree Red Bull strategy was not good on first stop. Should have pitted at least one of their cars earlier. Unfortunately, Red Bull make rather a habit of making the wrong call.
    Ferrari got it right today, as it turned out. They often get it wrong too

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan


    Why not try to win the race on 4 stops or something along the lines?

    Can't you come up with anything better to slag him off? Pathetic.
    Not slagging. He has merely been underwhelming thus far in his comeback.

    20 laps behind a Toro Rosso today wasn't exactly impressive. Hopefully he will be better in Malaysia.

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