NASCAR contemplates multiple G-W-C finishes

[71Fan]

Has anybody ever seen a poll that backs up Pemberton's claim that GWC is what the fans want?

[slorydn1]

Has anybody ever seen a poll that backs up Pemberton's claim that GWC is what the fans want?

Yeah, there were several back around the time frame this was all being discussed when Jimmie Johnson was "handed a win" at Talladega back in the 03-04 time frame (the Jr fans went ballastic and almost tore Talladega down) and although I don't know the exact numbers, it was something like 70-30 for GWC versus always ending at scheduled distance. Back ariound that time I railed against it on this board, how it was going to screw up nascar etc etc and was basicly proven wrong. Everything I said about drivers getting screwed all the time and running out of gas during the extra laps have not come to fruition, so the GWC has grown on me over the years. Many of us forget, the Truck Series had multiple gwc's untill the current policy was passed for all 3 series. Teams factored that possibility into their fuel calculations.
What had got me all worked up was the quote of Ramsey Poston that damg75 posted that it should be leftup to race control's discretion that got me worked up (but little brothers are always GREAT at pushing big brother's buttons, arent they?)

Now it looks like there will be 3 attempts, per David Hoots in the drivers meeting.

[JasonD]

Could this not cause problems with fuel loads? It seams a little to advantageous for the driver that pitted last. Or are teams supposed to just fuel it for X number of laps + 3 now?

[71Fan]

A guy on another board wrote something like this:

They should keep doing the GWC at Dega till somebody dies.

[Mark in Oshawa]

Yeah, there were several back around the time frame this was all being discussed when Jimmie Johnson was "handed a win" at Talladega back in the 03-04 time frame (the Jr fans went ballastic and almost tore Talladega down) and although I don't know the exact numbers, it was something like 70-30 for GWC versus always ending at scheduled distance. Back ariound that time I railed against it on this board, how it was going to screw up nascar etc etc and was basicly proven wrong. Everything I said about drivers getting screwed all the time and running out of gas during the extra laps have not come to fruition, so the GWC has grown on me over the years. Many of us forget, the Truck Series had multiple gwc's untill the current policy was passed for all 3 series. Teams factored that possibility into their fuel calculations.
What had got me all worked up was the quote of Ramsey Poston that damg75 posted that it should be leftup to race control's discretion that got me worked up (but little brothers are always GREAT at pushing big brother's buttons, arent they?)

Now it looks like there will be 3 attempts, per David Hoots in the drivers meeting.

Freak show racing. The GWC is just tarting up the ole girl when she isn't that good looking. Sometimes stupidity ensues in the last few laps and you get what you get. They mentioned on the "Duels" broadcast they will do GWC's until the leader of the race gets the white flag....THAT is the true end to the GWC.

[damg75]

Yeah, there were several back around the time frame this was all being discussed when Jimmie Johnson was "handed a win" at Talladega back in the 03-04 time frame (the Jr fans went ballastic and almost tore Talladega down) and although I don't know the exact numbers, it was something like 70-30 for GWC versus always ending at scheduled distance. Back ariound that time I railed against it on this board, how it was going to screw up nascar etc etc and was basicly proven wrong. Everything I said about drivers getting screwed all the time and running out of gas during the extra laps have not come to fruition, so the GWC has grown on me over the years. Many of us forget, the Truck Series had multiple gwc's untill the current policy was passed for all 3 series. Teams factored that possibility into their fuel calculations.
What had got me all worked up was the quote of Ramsey Poston that damg75 posted that it should be leftup to race control's discretion that got me worked up (but little brothers are always GREAT at pushing big brother's buttons, arent they?)

Now it looks like there will be 3 attempts, per David Hoots in the drivers meeting.

It was Jeff Gordon that got handed the win in '04 at dega when the caution came out with 4 or 5 laps to go...remember the 24 doin' burnouts with the budweiser cans hittin' his car? Ahhh, the good ol' days, lol :

[damg75]

Maybe they want to do the G-W-C restarts until their driver choice wins it ...
or maybe they want to squeeze a few more bucks from the fans at the trailers ...
IMO this will be a bad call for nascar, so what else is new ?
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(welcome back damg, it is good to see you.)

Hey Stan! Hope all is well with you

[slorydn1]

It was Jeff Gordon that got handed the win in '04 at dega when the caution came out with 4 or 5 laps to go...remember the 24 doin' burnouts with the budweiser cans hittin' his car? Ahhh, the good ol' days, lol :

Yeah, I do remember that,that was the race at dega that I recorded from the old Nascar In Demand on cable all from Harvicks car and he ended up p3, and Jeff won the race after being side by side with jr in the middle of 3-4 (don't rememberwhat the yellow was for) and every one went nuts, including me, because Kevin had a run on them and was getting ready to take it 3 wide to the outside when the caution came out. JJ finished p4 in that one actually, looking at it now on racing reference, was the 2004 arrons 499

http://racing-reference.info/race?id=2004-09&series=W

[71Fan]

Yup sure do....and thanks for the info on the poll stuff. Shucks, I've seen stuff get thrown on track *during* a race. Just a dang shame that folks can't appreciate a race for what it is.

[slorydn1]

Yup sure do....and thanks for the info on the poll stuff. Shucks, I've seen stuff get thrown on track *during* a race. Just a dang shame that folks can't appreciate a race for what it is.

Amen