What is wrong with some people? A story from Uganda

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Proposed legislation would impose the death penalty for some gay Ugandans, and their family and friends could face up to seven years in jail if they fail to report them to authorities. Even landlords could be imprisoned for renting to homosexuals.

A draft law currently going through parliament in Uganda has prompted controversy far beyond East Africa.

These are some of the provisions of the Anti-Homosexuality Bill:

* Gay men and lesbians convicted of having sex would be sentenced, at minimum, to life in prison.
* Homosexuals who have sex with a minor may receive the death penalty.
* Anyone who knows of homosexual activity taking place and fails to report it risks up to three years in prison.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/ne...aw_wt_sl.shtml

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...mosexuals.html

Meanwhile former Wales and Lions captain Gareth Thomas has broken one of the major taboos that surround sport by revealing he is gay.

So it would seem that some of us are moving in the right direction for gay rights while some nations go scarily in the wrong direction.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugb...sh/8421956.stm

[Hondo]

Who is moving in the right direction? Obviously Uganda sees homosexuality as a major threat to it's culture and it's state social services. Uganda is not the only nation that takes a dim view of homosexuality and many deal with it severely. Islam isn't terribly fond of it either and has put people to death over it.

The western tolerance of homosexuality is largely a by product of the individual rights that sprang from the "if it feels good, do it" battle cry of the 60s and 70s. However, that tolerance is being sorely tried by the gay rights ever more militant "in your face" attitude. People in the USA have grown weary of the gay, same sex marriage demands. In every state where it has been on the popular ballot, it has been defeated. So far it has been also rejected by every upper court appeal in areas where it was snuck in by other means. Most people will tolerate it if it is practiced quietly in the background.

Any way you look at it and regardless of any argument you want to make for it, it is an unnatural condition about which the majority have little sympathy. Homosexuality is extremely rare in other animal species and I suppose an argument could be made that amongst humans, it is a free will choice. Any animal homosexual couple, on it's own, is unable to reproduce and would become extinct upon the deaths of the couple. Nature or God or Allah if you prefer has not, that we know of, created any such species.

[Dave B]

Wow. Firsty neither God nor Allah created anything, and secondly there's plenty of evidence of animals in the wild practicing homosexual behavior. Of course it's comparitively rare in nature as evolution depends of reproduction to survive, but it does happen.

Humans are able to seperate sex and reproduction, so if two consenting adult humans of whichever gender want to get jiggy then that should never ever be a matter for state or religious interference.

[Hondo]

If it feels good, do it.


Rest my case.

[Garry Walker]

So it would seem that some of us are moving in the right direction for gay rights while some nations go scarily in the wrong direction.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugb...sh/8421956.stm

Well, whilst I personally find homosexuality repulsive (and I am most certainly against any adoption by gays and gay marriage), then shooting them for this is obviously sick.
If they want to shoot somebody, shoot the promoters of gay prides, something that disgraces the whole gay community.

[Macd]

Well, whilst I personally find homosexuality repulsive (and I am most certainly against any adoption by gays and gay marriage)

Why?

[Garry Walker]

Why?

Because
1) Marriage should be between a man and a woman
2) A kid should have both a father and a mother. Not two mothers or two fathers.

[Macd]

I just want to point out that people are born gay and do not get turned gay like people suggest. I am secure enough in my own sexuality to be able to accept gay people for what they are. Human beings, who have not asked to be the way they have turned out.

Quite frankly I'm appalled by some of the views expressed on this thread against gay people. The fact that Uganda is punishing people for something that they can't help, means I am happy in the knowledge that none of my hard earned cash will ever go to this country in the future. Other cultures don't accept gayness because they are guided by out of date, meaningless religions based on ideals laid out in times of primitive existence.

There have been Gay people in society since the beginning of Man Kind, its just now its tolerated. People didn't admit it years ago and lived in marriages under a lie. Face it people, its flawed DNA that makes a select few what they are.

Couldnt agree more with everything said here. Especially the bold part. This is what happens when religion is allowed to have influence in the civilised world.

You wouldnt sentance a man to death for being black would you?
or say that a black man couldn't marry a white woman.
Because that's the way i'm seeing some of the views here.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Because
1) Marriage should be between a man and a woman

Says who?

2) A kid should have both a father and a mother. Not two mothers or two fathers.

Oh yeah. I'm sure two chavs (or in most cases just one chavy mother) in a inner-city council flat living on benefits are going to be able to bring a child up better than two gay/lesbian people who have worked hard to get themselves a decent job.


I went to gay pride this year in Blackpool. It was brilliant. I got loads of free condoms.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Any way you look at it and regardless of any argument you want to make for it, it is an unnatural condition about which the majority have little sympathy. Homosexuality is extremely rare in other animal species and I suppose an argument could be made that amongst humans, it is a free will choice. Any animal homosexual couple, on it's own, is unable to reproduce and would become extinct upon the deaths of the couple. Nature or God or Allah if you prefer has not, that we know of, created any such species.

You have just embarrassed yourself with that last paragraph.