Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

**WRCStan** · 28th May 2024, 16:01

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

How does a rally car, powered by a petrol engine, promote the 100% EV Ypsilon HF ?

It's a brand positioning exercise IMO. Guessing with Citroen, Peugeot and Opel already using x% of the parts, and all these motorsports departments under one roof, it's probably easy for them to do it ahead of feasible EV motorsport in the future.

**saco0o** · 28th May 2024, 16:45

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

How does a rally car, powered by a petrol engine, promote the 100% EV Ypsilon HF ? Is it just a case of any publicity is good publicity for the brand / car and their rally heritage is just something to make use of ?

its all b.s.
didnt hyundai just threatened to quit if they couldnt run the car they are stopping producing, with the hybrid package they buy from another maker? (i mean, its not even their stuff). nothing makes sense anymore

**NaBUru38** · 28th May 2024, 17:51

The Lancia Ypsilon road car has a 1.2L gasoline engine.

**WRCStan** · 28th May 2024, 19:37

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

The Lancia Ypsilon road car has a 1.2L gasoline engine.

But not the HF one they want to base this on.

**Walach** · 29th May 2024, 05:10

They just market it as HF, in a very same manner that Skoda market their product as "Fabia RS Rally2" despite actual road-going Fabia RS not existing since 2014, same as Ford with the "Fiesta RS WRC" without actual RS version of Fiesta ever existing.
What an audacity.

**Eli** · 29th May 2024, 07:11

Originally Posted by Walach

They just market it as HF, in a very same manner that Skoda market their product as "Fabia RS Rally2" despite actual road-going Fabia RS not existing since 2014, same as Ford with the "Fiesta RS WRC" without actual RS version of Fiesta ever existing.
What an audacity.

It’s a bit sad they killed off all the small supermini hot hatches, and I’m sorry an ‘hot’ electric Ypsilon doesn’t cut it for me.

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 29th May 2024, 09:01

Originally Posted by Walach

They just market it as HF, in a very same manner that Skoda market their product as "Fabia RS Rally2" despite actual road-going Fabia RS not existing since 2014, same as Ford with the "Fiesta RS WRC" without actual RS version of Fiesta ever existing.
What an audacity.

But at least they all had the same power source as the rally cars (an ICE) and Ford did have performance versions of the Fiesta (ST) and an RS Focus. Even Hyundai had their N range of road cars to promote by rallying. But now none of these exist to buy.

Lancia are going even further though, promoting a future EV with an ICE rally car. Bizarre.

**Franky** · 29th May 2024, 10:04

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Lancia are going even further though, promoting a future EV with an ICE rally car. Bizarre.

They aren't promoting future EV. They are promoting Lancia. As long as the car looks like what you are selling, no one cares how it moves.

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 29th May 2024, 12:23

Originally Posted by Franky

They aren't promoting future EV. They are promoting Lancia. As long as the car looks like what you are selling, no one cares how it moves.

I get the publicity aspect, but can it work when the only people who will notice are rally fans who generally dont like EVs anyway?

**saco0o** · 29th May 2024, 19:27

current 'car segment' used in wrc is the "b-segment small cars / subcompacts", right?
examples: c3, yaris, mini hatch, fiesta, fabia, ibiza, 208, a1...

is this your favorite car segment? cuz I feel we may be moving "up" in the next years, with all the SUV thing.
i think if i were to choose, i'd rather have segment-a cars (fiat500, picanto, up!, twingo, aygo, i10, citigo). i like those smaller cars with big wings, reminds me some of the hillclimb machines.
haha i also love those k-cars from japan. they seem very "oh, this is what road cars should look like". that and those weird "tuk-tuk' taxis they have all over asia haha