WRC main class in 2025

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 5th March 2024, 10:25

The more I read and think about all these new proposals the more it seems like a complete dog's breakfast. The new points system was confusing, but the rules for the cars and classes for the the next few years actually make it look simple and logical !

I predict a total mess and a chaotic WRC until someone has the balls to decide on a proper set of straight-forward regulations and cars that actually make sense for both fans and manufacturers.

**JAM** · 5th March 2024, 13:40

Originally Posted by Mirek

I'd add that even the speed of the works development is unsustainable for the customers. The privateers need stability and for them fewer uppgrades coming through the season is better.

Also the upgrades are not just to buy something and install it. Most of the upgrades also require testing, building of new setups etc. It's not just a cost of the new part but a lot more.

And you can add human resources too. How many people could be necessary to run full trothle a car that is developed to a works team? 3 mechanics anda a engineer are enough? I doubt.

**becher** · 5th March 2024, 19:22

Originally Posted by Rallyest

Only logical reason behind that i see reducing costs is maybe that engines are less on the limit and therefore there is less wear maybe?

You mean in the sense that cars won't be buzzing the limiter on long straights but rather trundle along at lower revs in top gear thanks to a limiter?

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 6th March 2024, 10:25

Toyota's J-M Latvala on problems with the Rally1 cars... mainly cost and the gap to the Rally2s...

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/mot...plicated/48266

**saco0o** · 7th March 2024, 15:18

autosport/motorsport.com podcast gravel notes on the new rules. interview with david richards.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1LO...iejfrPDZoLw%0A

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 8th March 2024, 11:13

Fan survey results:

https://www.rallyfish.co.uk/news/wrc...Gi3LincnGpVpEY

**Eli** · 9th March 2024, 08:00

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/t...sive/10584887/

Latvala thinks €400,000 is a bit optimistic, something like €500,000 is more realistic in his opinion. So basically back to the DS3 & Fiesta RS costs back in 2011.

**Mirek** · 13th March 2024, 09:11

Originally Posted by Eli

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/t...sive/10584887/

Latvala thinks €400,000 is a bit optimistic, something like €500,000 is more realistic in his opinion. So basically back to the DS3 & Fiesta RS costs back in 2011.

500 thousand Euro today equals only 375 thousand from 2011. There is an inflation.

**Eli** · 13th March 2024, 11:45

Originally Posted by Mirek

500 thousand Euro today equals only 375 thousand from 2011. There is an inflation.

So that makes it even harder to achieve.

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 13th March 2024, 16:54

More from Latvala, this time on the Rally2 WRC Kit...

"For the private teams, it could be a great idea. But, for the manufacturer who wants to build the car to win the World Rally Championship, do they want to see the car run out of the garage beating your product in which you’ve invested a lot of money? It raises questions,”

“I know we are struggling with not so many cars in the main class and giving the opportunity to fine-tune the Rally2 car… I can see the positive – we have more cars, potentially, in the main class. But slowing down the Rally1 and boosting the Rally2? We need to find the balance.”

https://rallyjournal.com/jari-matti-...ajor-question/