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    If one would have been given a chance to drive/(co-drive) the top rally car and said no.. then it is something wierd..
    But okay, nevermind

    About ego trip..
    making a personal thread about entering a rally doesn't count right..

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    Quote Originally Posted by J4MIE View Post
    The difference I suppose with Gronholm and Loeb is that they’re proven world champions. Did Latvala ever come close?
    Not really, but what’s that got to do with it? Latvala is easily in the same company as Loeb, Gronholm, Hirvonen, Evans, Neuville - not necessarily all world champions, but all are multiple time world rally winners. If it were Serderidis, Al-Qassimi, Novikov or Bertelli I could understand the cynicism

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    If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J4MIE View Post
    The difference I suppose with Gronholm and Loeb is that they’re proven world champions. Did Latvala ever come close?
    This is what I never got with rally people. Every non world champion is a muppet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by becher View Post
    This is what I never got with rally people. Every non world champion is a muppet?
    Yes, I also don't understand where all this negativity on the forum comes from.
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Social media negativity and toxicity invades forums as well

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    Is it Latvala, Serdenidis, Munster... does not matter - someone can make their dreams come true, often they have had worked hard to do so.

    "Rally1 startlist is so small", "Oh this dude does not deserve the drive!" - is it our/forum commentators thing to "decide" who can drive and who can not. Luckily, no one gives a s*it what you/we are thinking here. Everyone have always option just to not follow and watch it.

    I think Latvala has still nice audience and I hope he is doing well based on his own expectations. I take it as work-bonus for him.

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    Well I might eat my own words, but I don't see why a driver of Latvalas caliber should not still be fairly quick. He's no Loeb granted, but it's not the typical finish 50th birthday start either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by becher View Post
    ... but it's not the typical finish 50th birthday start either.
    based on his comments, it's more like 50th birthday (he actually has long way to go for that), but... he is competitor - when helmet goes on and start light says go, probably the theory will be left behind

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    Quote Originally Posted by meh View Post
    based on his comments, it's more like 50th birthday (he actually has long way to go for that), but... he is competitor - when helmet goes on and start light says go, probably the theory will be left behind
    Of course it is, I meant more that he isn't retired for long whereas the likes of Grönholm, Alen, Salonen were retired for a long time before they came back for their 50th birthday and therefore their lack competitiveness was logic.

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