Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

**meh** · 4th June 2023, 19:51

In theory it's all easy - there are facts and there are opinions. Problems start when people start mixing them and opinions are also more like a religion - just blind believing and the result is - religious war.

We can be precise with facts, we can have opinions with understanding and respecting, that opinion is like ass, everyone has their own.

**sinepikohv** · 5th June 2023, 07:53

The FIA publishes list of homologated parts, right? I mean, when teams use joker we could know whether they've changed something with the motor, chassis etc. It's all vaguely written, of course. I can't seem to find such documents about 2023 but perhaps somebody here knows where to look at?

**becher** · 5th June 2023, 08:42

Originally Posted by sinepikohv

The FIA publishes list of homologated parts, right? I mean, when teams use joker we could know whether they've changed something with the motor, chassis etc. It's all vaguely written, of course. I can't seem to find such documents about 2023 but perhaps somebody here knows where to look at?

In my experience it is quite difficult to find current documents.

**Rallyper** · 5th June 2023, 08:53

Originally Posted by Sulland

But no matter how bad and slow this forum will get, pls do not try to swap to facebook or any other of the things we call social media that the youngsters use. We had a pretty lively rally forum in Norway, that was restarted on facebook, and very soon went into hibernation.

It is not harder than to respect other people opinions, and run a clean debate. It is all good to challenge meanings and minds, but treat others the same way you would like to be treated, and can look back on in a few years and still be ok with!

+10

**EstWRC** · 5th June 2023, 12:41

Last year after sardegna vs this year

2022 / 2023
Rovanperä 120 / 118
Neuville 65 / 93
Tänak 62 / 85
Katsuta 47
Evans 39 / 83

**Katvala** · 5th June 2023, 15:34

Originally Posted by AndyRAC

It was extremely busy, and lively about 20 years ago. Lots of healthy discussion. It helped that the WRC was in a really good place (though that wouldn't last). Other forums like Pistonheads, Autosport have rally threads and they're quiet.

To be honest, the issues are symptomatic of modern life; I've noticed it on other forums where newcomers immediately think they can 'rubbish' long time forum users, and show absolutely no respect at all.

The trend of forums dying out is also part of it. Younger folks don't tend to go to forums to talk about things. They use Reddit, discord, social media and so on.

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**becher** · 5th June 2023, 19:19

Originally Posted by EstWRC

Last year after sardegna vs this year

2022 / 2023
Rovanperä 120 / 118
Neuville 65 / 93
Tänak 62 / 85
Katsuta 47
Evans 39 / 83

Goes to show how much he dominated last season, when we allready see him as the nailed on title favorite despite the much more "even" points distribution this year.

**CeskyOndra** · 5th June 2023, 20:35

Guys.. I dont actually know how old are you, but Im 16 and Im using social media like Discord, Instagram, etc.. So for my generation is "forum" quite old. But I totally respect and I really like this forum. In my opinion, this website is so much better than Facebook for example. I appreciate the community here and there is all you need for chating

**skarderud** · 5th June 2023, 20:56

Originally Posted by CeskyOndra

Guys.. I dont actually know how old are you, but Im 16 and Im using social media like Discord, Instagram, etc.. So for my generation is "forum" quite old. But I totally respect and I really like this forum. In my opinion, this website is so much better than Facebook for example. I appreciate the community here and there is all you need for chating

Welcome! I'm 30 yrs older than you, i have a son at your age, good to see young people enjoy this sport!

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**becher** · 5th June 2023, 21:53

Originally Posted by CeskyOndra

Guys.. I dont actually know how old are you, but Im 16 and Im using social media like Discord, Instagram, etc.. So for my generation is "forum" quite old. But I totally respect and I really like this forum. In my opinion, this website is so much better than Facebook for example. I appreciate the community here and there is all you need for chating

I'm also on the younger side (but not nearly as young as you) and only joined the forum fairly recently and only started really writing last years Monte but I've been reading it for years and also dug up plenty of old threads to read long before I joined. I have to agree, it doesn't compare to anything else. Sure sometimes people are fanboys, misreable, just a**holes or acting a bit stupid, but the knowledge is still here, as is the enthusiasm and one gets the news quicker than anywhere else.

All in all there is still a lot this forum has to offer.