Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

**NOT** · 4th June 2023, 12:39

Originally Posted by EstWRC

Finnish people are the happiest in the world as we know

someone must inform finnish people as well about this fact... they seem to miss it...

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpub...tatistics2019/

**NOT** · 4th June 2023, 12:45

Originally Posted by AnttiL

This forum is nowadays so miserable that I get just negative feelings coming here so I'll log off for a while or maybe permanently. See you elsewhere.

its the sport that is miserable in its current state... this place did not change... i annoyed autistic people 20 years ago as much i do now.

**becher** · 4th June 2023, 12:56

Originally Posted by cali

Is there any particular beef or arguements for AnttiL's decision?
But I agree with EstWRC we're all grown people here and free to make our decisions.

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I think its a case of "this is the worst rally" comments every single event, add constant whinging about tyre saving/powerstage/rules/FIA decisions/... And not to upset the Estonian/Tänak-army, but most comments in forum seem to be about how miserable his season is.

**Sulland** · 4th June 2023, 13:14

Originally Posted by AnttiL

This forum is nowadays so miserable that I get just negative feelings coming here so I'll log off for a while or maybe permanently. See you elsewhere.

Compared to when i forst came here, almost 20 years ago, the discussion climate, and in that, to answer questions from freshmen to the sport is very different.

I have no problem to be put in my place by veterans in here, but when youngsters at the same age as my kids tell all in here that they all have it wrong, and in a tone that are "keyboard trollers" worthy, it is a limit for when a discussion forum goes from being a good place to spend time, and give energy to something that suck enegy.

The activity in reflects that. Som of the ones that have access to forum dashboard and can take out statistics will be able to verify I guess.

maybe it is time to give out yellow and red cards, so admin and mods will use power on people that can not behave!

**Dontcut** · 4th June 2023, 14:36

Is touring car series still use handycap weight addition to Championship top drivers. That idea in WRC? Some steel plates max 40kg at 50/50 balance point low underneath the car. Shoot me.

**J4MIE** · 4th June 2023, 15:22

Originally Posted by Sulland

Compared to when i forst came here, almost 20 years ago, the discussion climate, and in that, to answer questions from freshmen to the sport is very different.

I have no problem to be put in my place by veterans in here, but when youngsters at the same age as my kids tell all in here that they all have it wrong, and in a tone that are "keyboard trollers" worthy, it is a limit for when a discussion forum goes from being a good place to spend time, and give energy to something that suck enegy.

The activity in reflects that. Som of the ones that have access to forum dashboard and can take out statistics will be able to verify I guess.

maybe it is time to give out yellow and red cards, so admin and mods will use power on people that can not behave!

Exactly this, it is pointless to call idiots out for being idiots, as they never realise they are idiots and think they are never wrong. And some comments above are, quite frankly, pathetic.

**Norm75** · 4th June 2023, 16:31

Originally Posted by NOT

its the sport that is miserable in its current state... this place did not change... i annoyed autistic people 20 years ago as much i do now.

Agree with first part of post. Disagree with 2nd part, couldn’t give a fvck.

**AndyRAC** · 4th June 2023, 17:29

Originally Posted by Sulland

Compared to when i forst came here, almost 20 years ago, the discussion climate, and in that, to answer questions from freshmen to the sport is very different.

I have no problem to be put in my place by veterans in here, but when youngsters at the same age as my kids tell all in here that they all have it wrong, and in a tone that are "keyboard trollers" worthy, it is a limit for when a discussion forum goes from being a good place to spend time, and give energy to something that suck enegy.

The activity in reflects that. Some of the ones that have access to forum dashboard and can take out statistics will be able to verify I guess.

maybe it is time to give out yellow and red cards, so admin and mods will use power on people that cannot behave!

It was extremely busy, and lively about 20 years ago. Lots of healthy discussion. It helped that the WRC was in a really good place (though that wouldn't last). Other forums like Pistonheads, Autosport have rally threads and they're quiet.

To be honest, the issues are symptomatic of modern life; I've noticed it on other forums where newcomers immediately think they can 'rubbish' long time forum users, and show absolutely no respect at all.

**becher** · 4th June 2023, 19:01

Originally Posted by Dontcut

Is touring car series still use handycap weight addition to Championship top drivers. That idea in WRC? Some steel plates max 40kg at 50/50 balance point low underneath the car. Shoot me.

Sorry, but the latter please.

**Sulland** · 4th June 2023, 19:42

But no matter how bad and slow this forum will get, pls do not try to swap to facebook or any other of the things we call social media that the youngsters use. We had a pretty lively rally forum in Norway, that was restarted on facebook, and very soon went into hibernation.

It is not harder than to respect other people opinions, and run a clean debate. It is all good to challenge meanings and minds, but treat others the same way you would like to be treated, and can look back on in a few years and still be ok with!