Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

[AndyRAC]

Compared to when i forst came here, almost 20 years ago, the discussion climate, and in that, to answer questions from freshmen to the sport is very different.

I have no problem to be put in my place by veterans in here, but when youngsters at the same age as my kids tell all in here that they all have it wrong, and in a tone that are "keyboard trollers" worthy, it is a limit for when a discussion forum goes from being a good place to spend time, and give energy to something that suck enegy.

The activity in reflects that. Some of the ones that have access to forum dashboard and can take out statistics will be able to verify I guess.

maybe it is time to give out yellow and red cards, so admin and mods will use power on people that cannot behave!

It was extremely busy, and lively about 20 years ago. Lots of healthy discussion. It helped that the WRC was in a really good place (though that wouldn't last). Other forums like Pistonheads, Autosport have rally threads and they're quiet.

To be honest, the issues are symptomatic of modern life; I've noticed it on other forums where newcomers immediately think they can 'rubbish' long time forum users, and show absolutely no respect at all.

[becher]

Is touring car series still use handycap weight addition to Championship top drivers. That idea in WRC? Some steel plates max 40kg at 50/50 balance point low underneath the car. Shoot me.

Sorry, but the latter please.

[Sulland]

But no matter how bad and slow this forum will get, pls do not try to swap to facebook or any other of the things we call social media that the youngsters use. We had a pretty lively rally forum in Norway, that was restarted on facebook, and very soon went into hibernation.

It is not harder than to respect other people opinions, and run a clean debate. It is all good to challenge meanings and minds, but treat others the same way you would like to be treated, and can look back on in a few years and still be ok with!

[meh]

In theory it's all easy - there are facts and there are opinions. Problems start when people start mixing them and opinions are also more like a religion - just blind believing and the result is - religious war.

We can be precise with facts, we can have opinions with understanding and respecting, that opinion is like ass, everyone has their own.

[sinepikohv]

The FIA publishes list of homologated parts, right? I mean, when teams use joker we could know whether they've changed something with the motor, chassis etc. It's all vaguely written, of course. I can't seem to find such documents about 2023 but perhaps somebody here knows where to look at?

[becher]

The FIA publishes list of homologated parts, right? I mean, when teams use joker we could know whether they've changed something with the motor, chassis etc. It's all vaguely written, of course. I can't seem to find such documents about 2023 but perhaps somebody here knows where to look at?

In my experience it is quite difficult to find current documents.

[Rallyper]

But no matter how bad and slow this forum will get, pls do not try to swap to facebook or any other of the things we call social media that the youngsters use. We had a pretty lively rally forum in Norway, that was restarted on facebook, and very soon went into hibernation.

It is not harder than to respect other people opinions, and run a clean debate. It is all good to challenge meanings and minds, but treat others the same way you would like to be treated, and can look back on in a few years and still be ok with!

+10

[EstWRC]

Last year after sardegna vs this year

2022 / 2023
Rovanperä 120 / 118
Neuville 65 / 93
Tänak 62 / 85
Katsuta 47
Evans 39 / 83

[Katvala]

It was extremely busy, and lively about 20 years ago. Lots of healthy discussion. It helped that the WRC was in a really good place (though that wouldn't last). Other forums like Pistonheads, Autosport have rally threads and they're quiet.

To be honest, the issues are symptomatic of modern life; I've noticed it on other forums where newcomers immediately think they can 'rubbish' long time forum users, and show absolutely no respect at all.

The trend of forums dying out is also part of it. Younger folks don't tend to go to forums to talk about things. They use Reddit, discord, social media and so on.

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[becher]

Last year after sardegna vs this year

2022 / 2023
Rovanperä 120 / 118
Neuville 65 / 93
Tänak 62 / 85
Katsuta 47
Evans 39 / 83

Goes to show how much he dominated last season, when we allready see him as the nailed on title favorite despite the much more "even" points distribution this year.