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    I would not call it overtaking. If you do your line-change with close to max allowed speed and before that you don't see anyone from your tiny mirror, then it is questionable, if you get hit by some surprise rocket.

    But the same clear is that there is no point to have argument here with some gentleman, SS19 is up and running, back to rally

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    Both are at fault, clearly it was avoidable, thinking about defensive driving, when you come from behind you should be able to see something like that coming. As far as I know driving faster on another lane is not considered overtaking, even if it’s the right lane. Overtaking is when you change lanes and that is not permitted using the right hand side. On wider roads speed limits can be more that 50 km/h, we clearly don’t know all the details.

    My problem is that rally drivers do that stuff all the time, not only in wrc. They should be better than regular drivers and have a predictible and respectful conduct. Also, we should note he was driving slow at first, then accelerated and braked - wrc cars on slicks have quite the stopping power.


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    Frustrating morning for Chris & Ross who had an off in SS18 (bent steering) and got stuck for a moment. They lost about 1 minute & are now down to P5. But Croatia Rally is not over, 2 more stages to go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    In the city? There is no overtaking or undertaking per law in city driving in most of the countries Croatia included.
    In very slow heavy traffic jams its ok, but otherwise no.

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    Any rational appraisal of that accident puts the blame 100% on Ogier's shoulders.

    He tried to cut across the lane in to the bus stop without due care and attention and caused the accident. He was even under heavy breaking in a middle lane to make sure to make the bus stop.

    If he had stuck to his chosen lane there would have been no accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    In very slow heavy traffic jams its ok, but otherwise no.
    overtaking - it's pass by opposite way lane. Pass at same direction only - "pass by"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    In the city? There is no overtaking or undertaking per law in city driving in most of the countries Croatia included.

    EDIT: That means you can drive which lane you want. The law doesn't care.
    i'm not sure about croatia, but in almost all european countries overtaking on the right is always forbidden.

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    Croatia:
    73 road deaths per million inhabitants estimated in 2019, which is well above the EU average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    overtaking - it's pass by opposite way lane. Pass at same direction only - "pass by"
    No, on a motorway it's still overtaking per law.

    It's different in cities where it's simply impossible to make it forbidden to pass from the right.

    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    i'm not sure about croatia, but in almost all european countries overtaking on the right is always forbidden.
    Overtaking yes but driving in the city doesn't recognize overtaking per law in Croatia (I am sure about it), here in CZ and in many other countries because it is simply impossible to force.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Croatia:
    73 road deaths per million inhabitants estimated in 2019, which is well above the EU average.
    Completely irrelevant information.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    2009 WRC Pickems Champion

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