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    Quote Originally Posted by Kradovech View Post
    It would have been justified, yes. But it would have been a silly situation nonetheless - a very small mistake by the team and major consequences.
    I would say that since no real advantage was gained, a fine is reasonable punishment.
    Do You agree when the very same rules are applied in a different way in relation to the manufacturers and the privateers and when FIA completely contradicts their own statements in matter of days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    Ogier opened his mouth ,and i am sure he didnt think twice what he said.


    What about unlimited testing in neighbourhood of Jyvaskyla?

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    Transcript of the post-event press conference organised by the FIA for the 2020 Rally Italia Sardegna.

    https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-d-sordo...ng-really-hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwbroe View Post
    What about unlimited testing in neighbourhood of Jyvaskyla?
    Not anymore in two years, and never on the route of Rally Finland the same year...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    this is not friendly though...

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    I’ve seen exclusion in the past but times have changed I guess.
    I would like to hear Ogiers opinion about this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Do You agree when the very same rules are applied in a different way in relation to the manufacturers and the privateers and when FIA completely contradicts their own statements in matter of days?
    Sorry, I am not informed enough. What particcular incident do you have in mind?

    In general I agree that the rules are same for everyone, and all transgressions should be followed by a punishment. However it seems fair that the severity of the penalty depends on the severity of the transgression of the particcular rule. In this instance the limit is set to 2%, Hyundais value was 2,3%. Had it been say 4%, a more severe penalty would be natural.
    So where would I draw a line? When should it be a fine, when a time penalty, when a disqualification of the driver or when should it be a disqualification of the entire team? Its a difficult question as any line, although necessary, would be arbritary. Luckily its a a question which is not up to me to answer.

    That being said, obviously the rules should be applied the same way to privateers. If anything, the fine should be reduced for a similar transgression (In this instance exceeding the limitation by 0,3%)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Similar nature - if there is a corner, it's either flat, square or hairpin. And lots of straights. And chicanes.
    euhm, no.
    some square corners, but no hairpins or chicanes. it has mostly fast flowing corners.

    its narrow, slippery, has many tricky place and deep cuts everywhere. but most importantly has deep ditches almost everywhere.

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    wrong thread
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    What would lead them to inspect the subframe? It’s a fairly integrated part in terms of what is bolted to it, isn’t it? Would they have spotted something / totally random / had a tip off?
    Let’s face it, 25g is pretty much invisible isn’t it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    Let’s face it, 25g is pretty much invisible isn’t it.
    It was not 25 gramms lighter but 211 gramms lighter.

    You guys mix nominal homologated value with lower tolerance limit. That is two different things. Guess why there is the tolerance?
    Last edited by Mirek; 11th October 2020 at 21:41.
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