WRC future

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 8th April 2020, 17:03

Originally Posted by pantealex

If M-Sport 'chooses' the FOCUS they will have to scale it all down, whereas if they chose a PUMA they could just use a production bodyshell

How so - isnt the Puma too big as a standard bodyshell ?

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 8th April 2020, 17:04

Originally Posted by AnttiL

You mentioned the point yourself. It's hybrid. The manufacturers will want to push hybrid models in the WRC. Most likely Hyundai will go to the Kona. Yaris already has a hybrid option.

But Fiesta & Focus are coming soon too...

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...and-focus-2020

**the sniper** · 8th April 2020, 17:28

As an aside, wasn't it the argument that there couldn't be a Fiesta RS because it'd too heavily eat into the sales of the Focus RS? Well now there's no Focus RS coming... It's be nice to see a hotter Fiesta, legitimately wearing the RS badge as a car that is rallied! Even if the WRC team goes for the Puma, the R5 Fiesta will still be the predominate Ford being rallied around the world.

**pantealex** · 8th April 2020, 17:31

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

How so - isnt the Puma too big as a standard bodyshell ?

Puma is Fiesta SUV
Puma has 10cm longer wheelbase than Fiesta but engines and transmission are same.
Totally 4,2M long (Focus is 20cm longer than Puma)

**pantealex** · 8th April 2020, 17:37

Originally Posted by the sniper

As an aside, wasn't it the argument that there couldn't be a Fiesta RS because it'd too heavily eat into the sales of the Focus RS? Well now there's no Focus RS coming... It's be nice to see a hotter Fiesta, legitimately wearing the RS badge as a car that is rallied! Even if the WRC team goes for the Puma, the R5 Fiesta will still be the predominate Ford being rallied around the world.

Focus RS Hybrid is coming 2022

Ford has stopped selling Fiesta in many countries like in USA...

R5 is history, those cars are called Rally2 nowadays

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 9th April 2020, 12:40

Originally Posted by pantealex

Focus RS Hybrid is coming 2022

As quoted earlier, the Mk4 Focus RS cancelled due costs for hybrid power ...

https://drivetribe.com/p/bad-news-20...SiWreNTf7o9PbA[/QUOTE]

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 9th April 2020, 12:43

Originally Posted by pantealex

Puma is Fiesta SUV
Puma has 10cm longer wheelbase than Fiesta but engines and transmission are same.
Totally 4,2M long (Focus is 20cm longer than Puma)

We were talking about using a standard bodyshell. The Puma bodyshell may be shorter but its much taller.

**pantealex** · 10th April 2020, 14:07

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

As quoted earlier, the Mk4 Focus RS cancelled due costs for hybrid power ...

https://drivetribe.com/p/bad-news-20...SiWreNTf7o9PbA

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https://moottori.fi/ajoneuvot/jutut/...isintaan-2022/

My source is Autocar, yours is drivetribe.
We will see, your source is talking about 2021 model, I´m saying 2022...

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 10th April 2020, 16:35

They are both talking about the Mk4 RS.

Even your '2022 info' states:
'Although Jim Farley Chief Operating Officer of Ford, has removed administrative barriers to projects like RS, there is still the challenge of finding the resources needed to develop Focus RS in a company that is currently investing heavily in electrified cars. In total, Ford plans to release a total of 40 all-electric, charging hybrid and light hybrid models by 2022. The cost of the development work is estimated at approximately EUR 8.6 billion.'

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 11th April 2020, 19:56

Colin Clark in his latest vlog reckons the Teams' decision to continue using the GREngine in 2022 may have been taken before the current pandemic and its future (financial) effects were apparent.

https://youtu.be/QEUc1w-tUfE