Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2017 [May 18-21]

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 22nd May 2017, 15:27

Originally Posted by jparker

No kidding. You should consider becoming my sponsor for the remaining WRC rounds.

No need. Now Ogier has got the Fiesta to his liking (after coming to the car so late) the wins will become regular.

**BigWorm** · 22nd May 2017, 16:17

Originally Posted by Rally Power

Ogier is one step above the others and they made mistakes trying to reach his level, simple as that. His consistency comes from a top raw speed (a few others can be as fast as him but no one is faster), a more efficient driving style and a superior ability to know his and the car limits.

After the hard PET in Portugal he seems to be now totally confident on the car (no more need to overdrive like in MC or to get defensive like at Argentina) and on the stages everyone noticed he was on a wining mission. Tanak didn’t handle Ogier pressure at the beginning of the second leg, but that can’t be regarded as Ogier luck. With or without Tanak’s mistake the french would pass him and get a totally deserved win, just like he did.

Btw, I’m not even an Ogier fan.

Mikko Hirvonen described this himself, Ogier was the man to beat when Loeb quit. Hirvonen tried to catch him so he took more risks in 2013 to do that, but that's also why Hirvonen crashed a lot in 2013 compared to his previous seasons because he had to risk more. Ultimately, he couldn't manage it.

**dimviii** · 22nd May 2017, 17:48

https://www.ewrc.cz/foto/36017-vodaf...portugal-2017/

**steve.mandzij** · 22nd May 2017, 18:43

Originally Posted by BigWorm

Mikko Hirvonen described this himself, Ogier was the man to beat when Loeb quit. Hirvonen tried to catch him so he took more risks in 2013 to do that, but that's also why Hirvonen crashed a lot in 2013 compared to his previous seasons because he had to risk more. Ultimately, he couldn't manage it.

Speaking of Hirvonen, I hope Latvala doesn't end up like him

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**BigWorm** · 22nd May 2017, 18:55

Originally Posted by steve.mandzij

Speaking of Hirvonen, I hope Latvala doesn't end up like him

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There are a few more rally wins to come for Latvala before he retires I think, his speed is good enough for that.

**steve.mandzij** · 22nd May 2017, 19:00

Originally Posted by BigWorm

There are a few more rally wins to come for Latvala before he retires I think, his speed is good enough for that.

I don't mean in terms of rally wins, I mean that I'd rather not see him retire as the best driver to never have won a championship.

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**EstWRC** · 22nd May 2017, 19:04

Tänak https://twitter.com/estebanpelos/sta...10859002916864

**BigWorm** · 22nd May 2017, 19:08

Originally Posted by steve.mandzij

I don't mean in terms of rally wins, I mean that I'd rather not see him retire as the best driver to never have won a championship.

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I think that is more of a probability than possibility. He's a very moody driver and harsh to himself when he has made mistake. He needs his selfconfidence to be high during the season to win it all, but it's too sensitive for that.

**dimviii** · 22nd May 2017, 19:10

Originally Posted by EstWRC

Tänak https://twitter.com/estebanpelos/sta...10859002916864

Estonian flag was visible from far away I guess

**Lundefaret** · 22nd May 2017, 19:15

Originally Posted by dodge33cymru

To play Devil's Advocate, at the moment they're getting the publicity without having to commit to a factory spending. What more are they going to get by spending an increased amount?

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Answer: Keeping Ogier