Is Redbull the architect of its engine problems?

[Nitrodaze]

I am really confused about this story because if what I have read is true, then the power unit used in Red Bull no longer is going to be "Renault" branded, but something else. If this is true, then where does that leave Renault who will be left with no prime teams using a Renault-branded power unit? Is Renault going ahead with making Lotus its works team?

Renault engines has alway been branded infiniti, Redbull shall also be branding the engine infiniti l think.

[The Black Knight]

Yep, it is definitely awesome if there are no competitive teams in F1 and everyone besides Mercedes crashes and burns I guess.

The awesome thing would be if those little shit heads in Red Bull got their comeuppance. Their behaviour has been disgraceful and they bring continual negative attention to the sport. In my opinion they should be thrown out of the sport. When a manager criticises a referee in football they get fined or a ban. It should be the same in F1 and RBR have certainly brought enough negative publicity on the sport so as to warrant expulsion. They are the cancer of F1.

I really don't mind who is winning as long as they have earned it. RBR deserved the success they had but now they deserve to be thrown out on their ass.

[Rollo]

I am really confused about this story because if what I have read is true, then the power unit used in Red Bull no longer is going to be "Renault" branded, but something else. If this is true, then where does that leave Renault who will be left with no prime teams using a Renault-branded power unit? Is Renault going ahead with making Lotus its works team?

Renault might still buy Black Maldonado.

Yes, Renault might be left with no prime teams using a Renault-branded power unit depending on what it does.

[Bagwan]

Test rigs at the mysterious building 9 have people thinking that maybe the approaches to Ferrari , Honda and Merc were a distraction , as they have apparently sorted the IP on the PU , and will now diverge into their own , using a Renault block at the start .
Illien's 40 horse head belongs to RBR , and they are also responsible for some of the rest of the electronic stuff , so they've got a head start on Honda , with an "unbranded" year until they take it up themselves .

Renault takes up Lotus , and all is well .

That way , RBR will be putting it all on the line , with nobody to blame for failure but themselves .


If this was the plan all along , then it's a clever one .
They dropped a horsepower guy in to play with a motor that's already integrated into your design , and now own almost all but the block .
And , it doesn't seem anybody , including Renault , saw it coming .



That is , if any of it is true .

[Nitrodaze]

Renault might still buy Black Maldonado.

Yes, Renault might be left with no prime teams using a Renault-branded power unit depending on what it does.

Renault has already said they do not want to supply engines to any other team from 2016 onwards. They are not bothered.

[Rollo]

Renault engines has alway been branded infiniti, Redbull shall also be branding the engine infiniti l think.

Er...



Infiniti only appeared on the cars in 2012 and the engine itself has never been branded Infiniti.

[zako85]

Renault engines has alway been branded infiniti,

No they were not.

[veeten]

Infiniti is the prestige marque of Nissan.

Nissan is the partner with Renault.

Renault designed, built and supplied the engines/hybrid powertrains(in conjunction with Nissan) for RBR, as well as other teams.

[Nitrodaze]

Er...



Infiniti only appeared on the cars in 2012 and the engine itself has never been branded Infiniti.

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[Rollo]

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Good work in finding two pictures where you can't actually see the engine cover. Good work in also proving yourself wrong.
Truly this is a case of the salmon that jumps on the hook for you. A fish gets caught when it opens its big mouth and into your big mouth we could fly a plane.

If you'd been honest, you'd have shown a picture of the side of the car:


Oh dear. I must be illiterate. That engine cover reads "Ren an Stimpy" doesn't it? What a dog and cat show!





Both of these pictures are of the RB10 which raced in 2014.
RB10 was always stated as Red Bull-Renault, with the engine as "Renault Energy F1-2014 1.6 L". Never has the engine itself has ever been branded Infiniti.