Marussia gone; official

[CNR]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/for...-2014-car.html
Williams back Manor bid to return to F1 grid using modified version of 2014 car
Manor has been formed after Marussia fell into administration last year
The team want to compete using a modified version of last season's car
Force India voted against the motion for Manor to return after a meeting
Claire Williams insists her team will help secure their return


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[Doc Austin]

I hope Claire gives them a Williams chassis and they kick Force India's ass with it.

[anfield5]

Good form Williams. Hopefully the other teams will be equally accommodating.

Force India's position does leave a bit of a bad after taste, but I can see their point. They are cash strapped and a re struggling to survive, but they have had to spend wads of cash to make this years grid with a car that meets the new rules, so allowing another hard-up team to save wads of cash by not having to comply is in many ways, completely unfair. So I can see why F.I are anti this.

[Doc Austin]

Marussia are not about to give up.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ma...s-to-get-ready

I don't know if it is comic or heroic of them to hang on facing such insurmountable obstacles. It's like F1 wants the team to die, but they keep coming back out of spite.

Marussia really wants to be in the game and F1 can't afford to lose more teams. Even on their best day, Marussia is not much better than 10th place, so what could it hurt to let them run the 2014 car for a few races? Just make them ineligible for points until they have a proper 2015 car. That way no one could complain about it costing them prize money.

At least that way you keep Marussia in the game and give them a fighting chance to recover and maybe get solvent. Keeping them off the grid doesn't make F1 any better and it doesn't keep Marussia in business.

Of course, if F1 only needs 18 or potentially 16 car grids, I could be wrong. I'm still not convinced that Force India is going to make it either.

[giu canbera]

F1 should bring Dallara and Oreca to build 8 cars each. Under some BoP program (what? not even 2 million per car? Dallara's GP2, Indycar and Super Formula costs 800k or so)
Bring OEMs to build cheaper engines to be used by these 16 cars (illmor, hpd, cosworth, judd?...hmm engine lease program... what? 10 million $$?)

ANd then introduce those rules from moto gp, allowing these teams to use an extra set of the soft tires during qualify, not demanding them to run 2 types of tires during races.. to give them some advantages to improve competition with the manufacturer teams.......
....Who should really be doing 30 millions $$ MAX cars.
C'mooon.. The 4 million bucks Super Formula car were only 4 secs of Rosberg/Hamilton's pace in SUzuka last year (Comparing series)

Imagine how cheap tickets could be. Stands would be filled again, eh.
Here in Brazil, the cheappest F1 ticket cost THE SAME as 10 WEC tickets.
Also, with less money to spend, more sponsors would get envolved! On the cars, on the event...
F1 is just stuuupid. They are drowning into their own BS cuz they simply want to look like a princess... durrr

[Doc Austin]

If it's about speed, a few years back an 90s vintage Nissan Group C was lapping Sebring faster than the dominant Audi R8, and that was on rock hard Avon control tires. The technology to go faster, cheaper has always been there.

What F1 has done is restrict the cars and then get the speed back with expensive technology. You can bet if they went back to the 3 litre ground effects rules the cars would be lapping 10 seconds minimum faster than the current billion dollar techno-sleds.

If you want to go fast cheaply, nothing beats brute force displacement. With a big motor and lots of grunt, you can run huge tunnels and huge wings and go like utter hell. If the goal is to go fast, it makes sense to do it this way rather than have 16-18 car grids that cost $100 million each a year to run.

[CNR]

http://www.foxsports.com/motor/story...try-fee-021715
Manor F1 Team pays 2015 entry fee

[anfield5]

http://www.foxsports.com/motor/story...try-fee-021715
Manor F1 Team pays 2015 entry fee

This is good news for F1. Hopefully the new ownership model is sustainable and they can eventually start to move forward. Some of their performances last year suggest that this might be the case... here's hoping.

[Bagwan]

Now they are officially out of administration , and Ferrari has said they will supply them with 2014 engines .

On Saward's blog , I had read that they would have more chance to make it as a result of being able to delay the actual entry onto the grid for 3 races , but I just read some speculation that it may not be so .

I'll try to figure out where I saw it , but it said that a team could only miss 3 outings until 2020 and since they have already missed 3 , they need to be at the opener .
I sure hope that's wrong , but if not , perhaps it can still happen anyway .

And , I also read they have crash tests planned for March .

The new Minardi , the plucky underdog .
So fitting that the press went to Minardi for comment on the situation when the teams tried to shut them out .

Go , Manor , go !

[Doc Austin]

I hope they make it. They will probably be slow and it the way, but that's better than continuing to lose teams.

I am also reading so much about VJ Mallya's money troubles that I would not bet on Force India making it to Melbourne.