Rallye Monte Carlo 2015

[stefanvv]

i haven t read any fact till now.Same thing do all Loebhaters.


wrong they were trying to fix it much earlier,when Loeb sweeping all gravel rallies and Ogier togather with some clueless fans were thinking that they were already ready for No1 against a 7 time world champion.These are FACTS.Loeb sweeping all gravel rallies.period
Even when Loeb sweeping all gravel rallies,Ogier didnt managed to collect more points than him.Thats a FACT.
What they decide to do after midseason(when Loeb sweeping and couldnt pass him in points) you will read at next quote.


wrong again.Proper fight isnt happening with closed gps at Acropolis.Thats a fact... there are videos at stage stop with journalist asking Ogier and saying lies.Thats a fact and you can find the video at youtube.This girlie play was happening with Quesnels approval.Thats why he discharged.
So yes somes they didn t want proper fight,but this wasnt Loeb.And these are facts.Way earlier than Spain.



Mikko was unlucky? lololol

please no more science fiction.

Dimviii, so You keep saying Quesnels has been behind Ogier the whole time. Why this is such a problem when at the end Loeb has won the championship(s) (well Quesnels was then fired from Citroen WRT, but this is not important, right?).
In my country we have a saying - "the guilty one escapes not being pursuit", is this the case?

[dimviii]

I don't want to, lets just enjoy the Rallies, though I don't see why it is so hard for Loeb fans to "enjoy" them.

how did you understant something like this?Of course i enjoy rallies,even Loeb dont participate.Havent you seen me watching ALL rallies at wrc and erc last 7 years here?Wrong conclusion mate.

..... Loeb is 9 (nine times) world champion, is it not enough?

unfortunately for Loebhaters is not enough.They say that he HAD to stay for the 2013 (at age of 39-40)to make them 10.
9 wrc championships are not enough for them.

. I'm little curious, what he needs to prove more. If it is fair-to-fair title against his compatriot - Ogier, why he didn't take the challenge in '13?

at first sentence you say that ''what he needs to proove more'' and at next sentence you ask me ''why he didn t take the challenge''
Watch out these are symptoms of Loebphobia.This disease is not easy to heal.

Lets say that is my question..... And please without arguments with the superior VW car.

at rallies with bad terren(asphalt or gravel or snow) which requaries suspension travel is superior.Thats something easy visible from videos.

[danon]

Loeb is the greatest rally driver of all time, possibly the greatest driver in the history of motorsports.

Let the rest, beat the best - Loeb has nothing left to prove, no records left to break!

Ogier could win many titles throughout his career but he'll always lack the most important one - "THE PEOPLE'S CHAMP".

The Artist of Rallying - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBITgght8uo

[Mariusz]

cant read lies and inaccuracies.
But they are funny all these Loebhaters,till Loeb was faster nobody writes,when makes a mistake they are all here with post after post.Let me service them.

Internet is full of people who are just waiting till anybody makes a mistake and then they start their rage to have their pleasure. You can't win with them all, there isn't enough time in our lives and I'm sure you know what is the best defense to at least not get crazy.

[stefanvv]

how did you understant something like this?Of course i enjoy rallies,even Loeb dont participate.Havent you seen me watching ALL rallies at wrc and erc last 7 years here?Wrong conclusion mate.

I only see struggling from Loeb fans, sorry, that is my impression.

unfortunately for Loebhaters is not enough.They say that he HAD to stay for the 2013 (at age of 39-40)to make them 10.
9 wrc championships are not enough for them.

Again, these 2 days I only see Loeb fans fighting with some imaginable enemy. There is no one to argue, even after this day of Loeb's disaster, sorry.

at first sentence you say that ''what he needs to proove more'' and at next sentence you ask me ''why he didn t take the challenge''
Watch out these are symptoms of Loebphobia.This disease is not easy to heal.

Don't worry about this, I haven't noticed any symptoms of this disease lately. I was just little worried about Loeb fans, seems they struggle....

at rallies with bad terren(asphalt or gravel or snow) which requaries suspension travel is superior.Thats something easy visible from videos.

Ok, I never really wanted Loeb to continue whatever fight it is somewhere there. VW is actually superior car, but isn't a champion like Loeb able to humiliate such advantage.

[danon]

SS 1 - 22 sec... enough humiliation

[dimviii]

Dimviii, so You keep saying Quesnels has been behind Ogier the whole time. Why this is such a problem

why is a problem to close the gps sensor so nobody can see your splits? Even your team? in my country this we call it CHEATING.
Yoy ask whats the problem when your young teammate finds clear gravel road and pushes the other one till the end of the last stage of the rally,even when the difference with Fords was minutes?Is it right for you?That was happening with Quesnels wishes.
That girlie trick was happening at more than 1st half of season.He didn t manage to pass him......
A 7 time champion admits respect,not sabotage.

when at the end Loeb has won the championship(s) (well Quesnels was then fired from Citroen WRT, but this is not important, right?).
In my country we have a saying - "the guilty one escapes not being pursuit", is this the case?

because after midseason this Ogier patronising from Quesnel came to psa heads.
Ogier at interviews had ridiculed the company which helped him to be what he is today.Ogiers interviews about justice etc stupid things(justice the cheater with closed gps sensors....)
We have to say that Loeb after all these sabotages didn t say ONE word to journalists,not moaning while they were sabotaging him.Journalists were asking him at every rally.Not a word.
After that, without Quesnels patronising we saw the real difference between them.
The next are well known.Loeb champion even with sabotage from inside his team,and Ogier run away,because he had fucked up his relations with psa.
Quesnel fired because his work as a manager didnt manage to administrate right his drivers.From his choices was very easy to loose both championships.When Ogier who hadn t something to loose was pushing him till last km.If Ogier bin it no problem,young driver,now he is learning.If Loeb bin it he would be the bad driver and looser.But a driver ,even Loeb, is impossible to push him all year for all stages and dont make mistake.Its not fair.
Thats why i laugh loud when Ogier moans about start positions etc.
And all these is even if he gets 15 world championships and 1500 stage wins,in my heart wont be Loeb.

Loeb fast,and professional,at all levels.

[stefanvv]

@ 1:03 I am speechless:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWD8R1CNhkQ

[stefanvv]

why is a problem to close the gps sensor so nobody can see your splits? Even your team? in my country this we call it CHEATING.
Yoy ask whats the problem when your young teammate finds clear gravel road and pushes the other one till the end of the last stage of the rally,even when the difference with Fords was minutes?Is it right for you?That was happening with Quesnels wishes.
That girlie trick was happening at more than 1st half of season.He didn t manage to pass him......
A 7 time champion admits respect,not sabotage.



because after midseason this Ogier patronising from Quesnel came to psa heads.
Ogier at interviews had ridiculed the company which helped him to be what he is today.Ogiers interviews about justice etc stupid things(justice the cheater with closed gps sensors....)
We have to say that Loeb after all these sabotages didn t say ONE word to journalists,not moaning while they were sabotaging him.Journalists were asking him at every rally.Not a word.
After that, without Quesnels patronising we saw the real difference between them.
The next are well known.Loeb champion even with sabotage from inside his team,and Ogier run away,because he had fucked up his relations with psa.
Quesnel fired because his work as a manager didnt manage to administrate right his drivers.From his choices was very easy to loose both championships.When Ogier who hadn t something to loose was pushing him till last km.If Ogier bin it no problem,young driver,now he is learning.If Loeb bin it he would be the bad driver and looser.But a driver ,even Loeb, is impossible to push him all year for all stages and dont make mistake.Its not fair.
Thats why i laugh loud when Ogier moans about start positions etc.
And all these is even if he gets 15 world championships and 1500 stage wins,in my heart wont be Loeb.

Loeb fast,and professional,at all levels.

I don't want to continue such single minded discussion, I didn't even intend to start it. Loeb is happy Citroen has backed him, Citroen were happy to backup Loeb (probably now they are sorry for it, who cares?), Ogier is happy with VW and VW are happy with Ogier, end of story. I'm also happy to watch some real competition nowadays.

[dimviii]

I only see struggling from Loeb fans, sorry, that is my impression.

you havent got to be sorry because of wrong impressions.These are symptoms of Loebphobia.I will take care dont worry.

Again, these 2 days I only see Loeb fans fighting with some imaginable enemy.

i dont see any enemies nore fights.Maybe you have to check your eyes.Loebphobia hasnt any relation with eyes,only with brain,but you never be sure with such diceases.

There is no one to argue, even after this day of Loeb's disaster, sorry.

disaster? what disaster? The only disaster i saw is that present wrc drivers are slow.Even the champion inside his hometown.

Don't worry about this, I haven't noticed any symptoms of this disease lately. I was just little worried about Loeb fans, seems they struggle....

dont be sure about symptoms of Loebphobia.Its very tricky dicease,it calms down for long periods,and comes back.

Ok, I never really wanted Loeb to continue whatever fight it is somewhere there.

but before 2 posts you asked me why he didnt participate at 40 years for a 10th championship....

VW is actually superior car, but isn't a champion like Loeb able to humiliate such advantage.

of course he himulate.Till stage 6 after 110 stage km he was faster against the superior car.All these after 15 months out of wrc with wrong tyre choices at the big 25km stages,and starting with dirty roads that were slower, if we believe ALL drivers quotes at stage stops(except Ogier because he hasnt very good relations with truth)