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25th August 2014, 22:26 #81Senior Member
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Now , look at the direction of Lewis's car .
At that point , he still can turn in far enough to allow room , but he's in too fast to do it .
Nico , at that point was pointed towards the narrowest apex he could take from there .
Lewis left no option but back out or be forced off , with a car only a tenth of second earlier , with it's wheel up beside his sidepod , mid-corner .
That's why they deemed it a driving incident .
Both were at fault .
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25th August 2014, 22:27 #82Senior Member
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The space Rosberg had is another point, he also had the choice to cut the chicane knowing he'd gone in too deep.
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25th August 2014, 22:36 #83
I might be wrong, but this is a forum, which is where people come to share opinions is it not? I'm glad you appreciated my disclaimer, with so many taking sides i felt it may be useful for people weighing in to be open about whether they are on either drivers side in general?
By the way, you were probably grasping for "May want to keep an eye ON your punctuation too".
I must remember not to feed the trolls in the future... Enjoying the racing anyway!To join, copy and paste this into your signature.
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25th August 2014, 22:37 #84Senior Member
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25th August 2014, 23:07 #85Senior Member
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Was a 50/50 call. "Racing" incident IMO. Lewis is bleating like a girl though!
"But it aint how hard you hit, it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward. How much you can take, and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done." Rocky.
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25th August 2014, 23:14 #86Senior Member
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I overall see it as a racing incident to be honest. Though I feel Rosberg is to blame for most of it through his misjudgement. I also feel Lewis is maybe a bit unwise going to the press like this.
However Lewis is 29 points behind and probably needs to try some psychological games to put pressure on Nico. A world title is at stake.
If I were Lewis I would be doing all I could to put pressure on Rosberg
If I were Nico, I would be more than pleased with how the race went on Sunday. Alls fair in love and war unless you get penalised I guessI still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
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25th August 2014, 23:49 #87Senior Member
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"But it aint how hard you hit, it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward. How much you can take, and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done." Rocky.
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26th August 2014, 00:29 #88Senior Member
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There's an easy explanation for that. You are simply jumping to conclusions based on lacking data. The Stewards, who looked into it have a former F1 driver between them, who would see a deliberate attempt at causing a crash immediately. They have seen the same sequence you based your 'expertise' on. Yet they seen nothing of the sort and they can consult the telemetry data that none of us has.
By the way, Nico was at the time LEFT of the required line to take the next corner halfway decently, so to remediate that he would have to turn right. And in case of understeer, steering right would also be worth an attempt.Last edited by dj_bytedisaster; 26th August 2014 at 00:32.
как могу я знать что я думаю, пока не слушал что я говорю
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26th August 2014, 02:06 #89Banned
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I'm not lacking any data. I saw the video with my own eyes. Seeing Nico turn the wheel that hard toward his teammate is all the info I needed.
Your sentence doesn't even make sense, but that doesn't surprise anyone.They have seen the same sequence you based your 'expertise' on.
He was off line because Hamilton had the line and had already won the corner.By the way, Nico was at the time LEFT of the required line to take the next corner halfway decently, so to remediate that he would have to turn right.
Just because these stewards have gotten to F1 doesn't mean they can't get it wrong. If that's the measuring stick, neither Nico nor Lewis can be wrong here either.The Stewards, who looked into it have a former F1 driver between them, who would see a deliberate attempt at causing a crash immediately.
And Massa, who is a current F1 driver, believes Nico should be penalized.
Besides, who cares what the stewards say? I can make up my own mind.
Especially if you're trying to take the car to your right out of the race.And in case of understeer, steering right would also be worth an attempt.
At best Nico was stupid for forcing a very marginal position, but I think it was premeditated, just like all that wild sawing back and forth of the steering wheel was when Rosberg shot down the escape road at Monoco. I was willing to give Rosberg the benefit of the doubt, but now we are seeing a pattern of Nico doing whatever it takes, whether sporting or not.
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26th August 2014, 02:51 #90Senior Member
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At the point of contact Nico still has a cars width beside him to the edge of the track, it might no be optimal, but he is behind and attempting to go round the outside. He had plenty of room, and still stuck the nose in. Not hangable, but still 100% his fault
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