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    Who Will Make The Chase

    These are the leaders today. Who do you think will drop out of the top 12 and who do you think will replace them. In all likely hood the top 8 are pretty well a cinch and maybe the top 9. The remaining 3 are up in the air. Mark martin will undoubtedly drop out and I think that Kyle Busch and Truex also will. My picks to replace them are newman, Jr, and a darkhorse, Bobby Labonte. What are your thoughts and picks.

    1 JEFF GORDON ......................... 2059

    2 JIMMIE JOHNSON ....................1907

    3 MATT KENSETH .......................1869

    4 DENNY HAMLIN ........................ 1842

    5 JEFF BURTON ......................... 1704

    6 CARL EDWARDS ......................1584

    7 TONY STEWART.......................1573

    8 CLINT BOWYER........................1525

    9 KEVIN HARVICK .......................1518

    10 KYLE BUSCH .........................1471

    11 MARK MARTIN .......................1435

    12 MARTIN TRUEX, JR ................1427

    13 JAMIE MCMURRAY..................1411

    14 DALE EARNHARDT, JR ...........1404

    15 RYAN NEWMAN ......................1389

    16 BOBBY LABONTE....................1340

    17 KURT BUSCH...........................1339

    18 GREG BIFFLE ........................1339
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    Quote Originally Posted by muggle not
    1 JEFF GORDON ......................... 2059
    2 JIMMIE JOHNSON ....................1907
    3 MATT KENSETH .......................1869
    4 DENNY HAMLIN ........................ 1842
    5 JEFF BURTON ......................... 1704
    6 CARL EDWARDS ......................1584
    7 TONY STEWART.......................1573
    8 CLINT BOWYER........................1525
    9 KEVIN HARVICK .......................1518
    10 KYLE BUSCH .........................1471
    11 MARK MARTIN .......................1435
    12 MARTIN TRUEX, JR ................1427

    13 JAMIE MCMURRAY..................1411
    14 DALE EARNHARDT, JR ...........1404
    15 RYAN NEWMAN ......................1389
    16 BOBBY LABONTE....................1340
    17 KURT BUSCH...........................1339
    18 GREG BIFFLE ........................1339
    Yes, Mark will definitely drop out of the top 12, he's only missed 3 races so far, with most of his scheduled weekends off over the summer, when Matt will be racing.
    I think anyone from 8-12 are vulnerable to two bad races, and anyone from 13-18 could move up with 3-4 top 5s, quite doable for those drivers.
    Clint Bowyer is the only driver in the top 18 without a win, and he hasn't gotten a top 5 all year (6 top 10s though) so he's probably the most at risk to drop out. If there's going to be a notable change I think it will either be because Roush (McMurray & Biffle) or Penske (Newman & Busch) got their CoT program together to compete with the Chevys. (I really don't expect Ford or Dodge to catch Chevy until a few races into next year, assuming their improved cyl heads work.)

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    My tips for the chase would be (in no particular order):
    Jeff Gordon
    Jimmie Johnson
    Matt Kenseth
    Denny Hamlin
    Tony Stewart
    Jeff Burton
    Carl Edwards
    Kyle Busch
    Kurt Busch
    Dale Earnhardt Jr.
    Ryan Newman
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    everyone in the top 12 now except Mark Martin and Kyle Busch, they will be replaced by Newman and Jooyner
    Brian France is a violation of Section 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing)

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    Martin will obviously not make the chase, I don't understand the idiots asking him if he'll keep racing if he makes it, its a realistic impossibility, if not a mathematical one.

    Off the top of my head, without analyzing the schedule(COT tracks...) I'd say I agree with Jonesi's assement regarding the 8-12 spots being in play.

    Bifle has no shot of making the chase, he's run poorly and struggle with the COT and has not performed well enough otherwise. Even his typical best tracks(1.5 milers) I don't recall him being a force.

    Labonte has kept his nose clean and run OK, but that is all. I'm impressed with his results and the upturn in Petty's operation, but he'd need no DNF's and some help to make the show, unlikely.

    Mcmurray is probably having his best season, but it won't be enough. A couple of bad finishes or DNF's and he's gone. He had a few good runs early, but otherwise has been middle of the road. Rousch's lack of performance with the COT won't help.

    Busch and Newman. I'd put them in the same boat. Penske's performance has gotten better this year, and without some bad luck/crashes and his idiocy Busch would be in good shape. Newman has been steadily improving of late. It's possible these two could finish 11-12 or 12-13, etc. Likely one of the two will make the chase.

    Earnhardt has had some bad luck as well, crash not of his making at Daytona, flat tires at Dover. The 100 point penalty obviously was bad. On the other hand DEI as a whole is on the rise, and the team has clearly worked out the flat 1.5-2.0 mile track problems from 1-2 years ago.

    So who's in and out?

    Earnhardt in, either Busch or Newman in, possibly both.

    Out: Martin...he's the only one I'm certain of though. Truex is on the rise, Busch though prone to mistakes is with a strong team and the COT races help his cause greatly. Bowyer and Harvick have run well, but Harvick especially has been inconsistent.

    I'll say Martin and Busch.
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    Hoss, you must've read my mind. agree with your analysis for the most. Martin will fall out, Kyle Busch and Harvick will be in trouble due to their inconsistency. Bowyer might be a question, but he's appeared solid and consistent enough to stay where he's at.

    Newman's making a strong run that if continued will find him in the chase. Earnhardt Jr and Kurt Busch can overcome the penalties and make runs too. both need to avoid the bad luck that's befell them to this point. those three have the best oppurtunity. McMurray has a shot but i'm on the fence between the consistency and the Roush performance.

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    inconsistent for Harvick

    last I saw He got caught up in Johnsons wreck at Lowe's and a engine miss at Dover, he still got top 20 finishes, and yesterday, he had no brakes and still got 11th.

    and Bowyer 10th. all three RCR cars will be in the chase
    Brian France is a violation of Section 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing)

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    top 20 finishes aren't much to brag about considering the expectations for Harvick's team heading into 2007. after the 500 victory Harvick has been mediocre at best. that team was expected to be a top 5 championship contender all season, not fighting to maintain a chase position. sure the 29 has been bit by some bad luck, but there were a couple races where that car was out to lunch(Atlanta & Texas come to mind).

    Harvick's 2007 finishes: 1,17,27,25,4,41,29,10,6,7,17,21,20,11
    2 top 5, 5 top 10 in fourteen starts
    consistent mediocrity is what i see from those numbers. only thing saving Harvick's season has been the ability to avoid sub-30th place finishes.

    imho,rather disappointing from a team many expected would win the title this year. at this point the 29's saving grace could be the expanded chase field.

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    Sniffle and Kurt Busch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djarumdudley
    top 20 finishes aren't much to brag about considering the expectations for Harvick's team heading into 2007. after the 500 victory Harvick has been mediocre at best. that team was expected to be a top 5 championship contender all season, not fighting to maintain a chase position. sure the 29 has been bit by some bad luck, but there were a couple races where that car was out to lunch(Atlanta & Texas come to mind).

    Harvick's 2007 finishes: 1,17,27,25,4,41,29,10,6,7,17,21,20,11
    2 top 5, 5 top 10 in fourteen starts
    consistent mediocrity is what i see from those numbers. only thing saving Harvick's season has been the ability to avoid sub-30th place finishes.

    imho,rather disappointing from a team many expected would win the title this year. at this point the 29's saving grace could be the expanded chase field.
    hmm.

    Cali - 2nd before flat tire forces to pitroad before G-W-C
    Atlanta - top 15 before engine loses cylinder
    Martinsville - top 5 before fuel pump fails, then foam on fire
    Charlotte - well, had winning All Star car, until JJ decided to block everyone with a flat tire
    Dover - was very fast but had a miss in the engine
    Richmond - class of the field before the pitstop with Ragan (but still was flying but ran out of laps)

    I say that they just don't have Hendrick's luck this year
    Brian France is a violation of Section 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing)

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