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    Look at the difference when Ott got the car little more working for him
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    tanak should be the man that Hyundai should listen for the new car... Neuville got his chance for a long time now and he was busy crashing on super specials and handing over cheap titles to ogier.

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    Bulacia back in the lead.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    I think Oliver needs a more experienced codriver, who can advice him to charge where to charge and calm down where needed.
    With such a detailed notes, no way a codriver can add advice in between the notes.
    I think he has to work on less detailed notes, will be better for codriver and driver imo. Certainly when everyhing comes even faster in a wrc car.

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    Nice one, Bulacia!

    Passed Mikkelsen in overall

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupanton View Post
    With such a detailed notes, no way a codriver can add advice in between the notes.
    I think he has to work on less detailed notes, will be better for codriver and driver imo. Certainly when everyhing comes even faster in a wrc car.
    Sorry. Big wrong from you.

    Don´t underestimate experience, arguing only about pace notes. Have you ever driven a rallycar? If not, you can´t even judge what a experienced codriver can offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Sorry. Big wrong from you.

    Don´t underestimate experience, arguing only about pace notes. Have you ever driven a rallycar? If not, you can´t even judge what a experienced codriver can offer.
    Dupanton is rally co-driver. Of course, he can judge.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Dupanton is rally co-driver. Of course, he can judge.

    I wouldn´¨t say that is an argument at all, Mirek.
    I´ve been both driver and codriver in the past and know, as many other experienced rallying people, what important advices a right chair guy can give a hotspur youngster in stages.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    Driver of the 0 car wrote that everything was clear when he passed the stages and people went crazy when the WRC cars showed up, alerting Mouton and the rest of the FIA delegation...

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    I agree with both ideas. Reducing note detail and adding a more experienced co-driver could be a good idea.

    Co-driver's advice is not given only during the stage, it's also during recce, between stages, reactions in sudden situations during stage (remember how Nagle kept Breen calm in Ypres and Estonia when they caught a car on stage). Also remember what Marshall said to Solberg after they completed the first stage of Arctic. Solberg was already critical of his performance and Marshall said something like "hey, it was your first stage in this car". This kind of comments are important. However, at the same time I don't know what's the relationship between Solberg and Johnston.

    Another example is when Suninen changed Salminen to Lehtinen, he used to be really mean at Salminen for small things, but towards Lehtinen there was respect.

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