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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Modern rally drivers are already lucky in having the Rally 2 option to continue.

    Year's ago if you broke down or crashed you were out of the rally, period.
    Until 1995 you had flying service between every stage, or even during the stage. Helicopter service was banned in 1986, and mid-stage tyre changes were banned in 1988. In 1995 that service parks came, but there were many of them, typically between 30-50 km of stages. From 2001 or so it's been mostly single service park location. Super rally was introduced in 2005. There were still usually two visits to the service park during a day. Around 2010 this started changing towards only one midday service during the rally day (in addition to morning and evening).

    The first superrally was arranged in 1999 along the first power stages (aka TV stage). Crews who had retired were allowed to take part in the TV stage and score additional points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Modern rally drivers are already lucky in having the Rally 2 option to continue.
    Year's ago if you broke down or crashed you were out of the rally, period.
    Re Tanak on Monte - he chose to have one spare and so took the risk of two punctures.
    And I am quite happy to cut the option of cars returning the day after, when repaired.
    If you have to stop on a stage, whatever the reason might be, you are out of the rally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    And I am quite happy to cut the option of cars returning the day after, when repaired.
    If you have to stop on a stage, whatever the reason might be, you are out of the rally.
    The purist in me agrees. The realist knows we have it, and it's staying as it ensures more cars on the stages. However, as I've often complained, if you SupeRally/ Rally2, you CAN'T finish ahead of someone who has done the full event.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    If you return under Rally 2 on the last day (to try for PS points), your times on the preceding stages should have to be within a certain percentage of a set figure to stop you tyre saving.

    The PS should be made equal for everyone especially now that there are Manu points on it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    If you return under Rally 2 on the last day (to try for PS points), your times on the preceding stages should have to be within a certain percentage of a set figure to stop you tyre saving.

    The PS should be made equal for everyone especially now that there are Manu points on it too.
    So why not put up a new set of tires for all PS drivers? So we get rid of the theatre on Sundays...
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    So why not put up a new set of tires for all PS drivers? So we get rid of the theatre on Sundays...
    They cut the overall number of available tyres year by year because of cost reductions. Tell them you want extra tyres just for PS and you'll see the answer
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    How about all cars have to carry an emergency super-lightweight space-saver spare wheel for road use only ?

    Then no more problems getting back to service and it will be the same for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    If you return under Rally 2 on the last day (to try for PS points), your times on the preceding stages should have to be within a certain percentage of a set figure to stop you tyre saving.
    But then Greensmith couldn't enter the power stage

    EDIT: Joking aside, this kind of rule would obviously be very hard to put into practice.
    Last edited by AnttiL; 27th January 2021 at 11:46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    They cut the overall number of available tyres year by year because of cost reductions. Tell them you want extra tyres just for PS and you'll see the answer
    I knew your answer beforehand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    They cut the overall number of available tyres year by year because of cost reductions. Tell them you want extra tyres just for PS and you'll see the answer
    As if those 4 tyres mean anything when it comes to cost saving.

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