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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan View Post
    So , why did he do that , anyway ?

    He , presumably , was there for the stewards meeting before the race and received the specific instruction as to where he could perform the practice start .
    So , again , I ask why .


    I saw a quote from the team saying they thought the stewards would take a dim view as soon as they saw it .
    So , it seems they didn't understand either .
    What are you talking about now? That all the drivers were told during the stewards meeting where to practise start? And the racing director notes that suggest it was ok was somehow incorrect. Or that you have been showing serious dislike for Hamilton for a while now.

    I can only take your point of view seriously if it is an objective opinion supported with good evidence. Otherwise you are just peddling prejudice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    What are you talking about now? That all the drivers were told during the stewards meeting where to practise start? And the racing director notes that suggest it was ok was somehow incorrect. Or that you have been showing serious dislike for Hamilton for a while now.

    I can only take your point of view seriously if it is an objective opinion supported with good evidence. Otherwise you are just peddling prejudice.
    What are you on about ?

    What is prejudiced about asking why he went much farther out than anyone else to do his practice start ?

    Is there some advantage to be gained by doing it differently ?

    I'm just trying to understand why he actually did it , not throwing rocks at him .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    What are you talking about now? That all the drivers were told during the stewards meeting where to practise start? And the racing director notes that suggest it was ok was somehow incorrect. Or that you have been showing serious dislike for Hamilton for a while now.

    I can only take your point of view seriously if it is an objective opinion supported with good evidence. Otherwise you are just peddling prejudice.
    Dazey, you shouldn't be so quick to pull out the Haters card. Looks to me like Baggy is asking an honest question. As for your question: "That all the drivers were told during the stewards meeting where to practise start?"

    Looks like the answer is yes. A quote from an article on another site has the following:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firstgear View Post
    Dazey, you shouldn't be so quick to pull out the Haters card. Looks to me like Baggy is asking an honest question. As for your question: "That all the drivers were told during the stewards meeting where to practise start?"

    Looks like the answer is yes. A quote from an article on another site has the following:
    I have to say, l could not stop laughing to see that Masi and his stewards thought that Hamilton had gained an advantage by doing his practise start where he did. Hence, deemed it to be a sporting offence. I wait to see what kind of advantage that is. It is laughable how they keep digging themselves deeper into the "we are out to get him" hole.

    The excuse that it is a sporting offence; hence the in-race punishment, sets a new precedent. And defines a new kind of infraction not defined anywhere in the regulations. If it was, they would be very quick to quote the rules in question. I understand Masi wants to defend his stewards, but at the expense of being seen as part of the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    The excuse that it is a sporting offence; hence the in-race punishment, sets a new precedent. And defines a new kind of infraction not defined anywhere in the regulations. If it was, they would be very quick to quote the rules in question.
    The stewards did quote the rules they thought Hamilton violated in their report: https://www.autoweek.com/racing/form...-even-started/

    Article 12.1.1. of the FIA International Sporting Code and Article 36.1 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations. The latter quite clearly defines what is - and what isn't - allowed on the installation lap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm99 View Post
    The stewards did quote the rules they thought Hamilton violated in their report: https://www.autoweek.com/racing/form...-even-started/

    Article 12.1.1. of the FIA International Sporting Code and Article 36.1 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations. The latter quite clearly defines what is - and what isn't - allowed on the installation lap.
    I think Article 36.1 could be successfully disputed. Unfortunately, they did not provide the complete wordsing of item 19.1 of the Event Note v3 for to have a clear understanding of where the designated place for practise start is.
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