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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    Will removal of the centre diff and the change to simpler suspension be enough to cancel out the additional cost of the hybrid system?

    Doesn’t seem like a great time for manufacturers to commit to new and probably not very cheap regulations. Keeping the current three manufacturers for 2022 under the current circumstances would probably be a good result.
    Agreed. With the Covid-19 downturn the chances of new manufacturers joining WRC in 2022 are slim to none.

    M-Sport are clearly the Team in most danger so the new car costs to them must be the key issue. Otherwise I could easily see them pulling out and concentrating on just entering WRC2, plus sales and service.

    Just having Toyota vs Hyundai would be a very poor Championship entry. And the costs would dictate that there wouldnt be any privateers for variety either (unlike the Citroen vs Ford days).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Agreed. With the Covid-19 downturn the chances of new manufacturers joining WRC in 2022 are slim to none.

    M-Sport are clearly the Team in most danger so the new car costs to them must be the key issue. Otherwise I could easily see them pulling out and concentrating on just entering WRC2, plus sales and service.

    Just having Toyota vs Hyundai would be a very poor Championship entry. And the costs would dictate that there wouldnt be any privateers for variety either (unlike the Citroen vs Ford days).
    It would be sad to see only Toyota competing. It seems that, Toyota is the only one to push regulations, which lead to more expensive cars/bigger costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrial View Post
    It would be sad to see only Toyota competing. It seems that, Toyota is the only one to push regulations, which lead to more expensive cars/bigger costs.
    I’m not sure that’s the case, reading the article they all seem to have come to agree that specifically talking about the engine, although the GRE is far more expensive per unit, they won’t use anything like as many through a season, and the engines are pretty well developed now anyway. Also if they go back to a production based unit, there is the possibility for 1 to spend a huge amount on a different engine that the other cannot, and then it’s more of a problem.

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    Dirtfish / D Evans - reporting that M-Sport model for 2022 as the all new Puma .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeakiwi2 View Post
    Dirtfish / D Evans - reporting that M-Sport model for 2022 as the all new Puma .
    https://www.dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/m...switch-in-wrc/

    Check the date ...
    Chris Ingram (GBR) - Ross Whittock (GBR)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Oh no its true !!

    David Evans @davidevansrally
    Just to be clear @DirtFishRally would have run this story tomorrow morning. Or yesterday afternoon... #forgetthedate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeakiwi2 View Post
    Dirtfish / D Evans - reporting that M-Sport model for 2022 as the all new Puma .
    I like that idea.
    "quattro best 4wd rallycar ever"

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    Ford Puma Ecoboost Hybrid Rally1

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    https://www.dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/w...han-youd-think

    It's not crazy, but the SUV is taking over the world already. It doesnt need another boost via WRC.

    For eco reasons family cars should be getting smaller and lighter but instead its the opposite.
    Last edited by Fast Eddie WRC; 1st April 2020 at 17:56.

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    I read that article, and it just disappointed me. SUVs sell, so the WRC will go down that route. What about other race series - I bet they won't touch them with a barge pole.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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