WRC future

[skarderud]

If Citröen quit, and the 2017 cars are to expensive for privateers, what is the next formula?

An R5+ hybrid?

Maybe thats the resonable economic and sporting formula.

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[Mirek]

Hybrid is never an economic formula. That's the most complex and complicated option You can choose.

[skarderud]

I think hybrid is part of the next formula, but how economic it is is a different thing.

Maybe put R5 as toppclass, or an R5+, i'll bet Tänak will be spectacular in an R5 too.

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[T16]

I think hybrid is part of the next formula, but how economic it is is a different thing.

Maybe put R5 as toppclass, or an R5+, i'll bet Tänak will be spectacular in an R5 too.

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Could they make a special hybrid unit that is used by everyone to keep costs as low as possible?
I think the main thing is to attract as many manufacturers as possible and if they want hybrid as part of the formula, then it’s a must.

[Mirek]

Hybrid is a politically and socially motivated option, not economically in terms of championship cost.

However the thing is that the manufacturers are willing to pay more for this politically motivated option, which tells You that the money is there. I don't think that in terms of the championship expenses we can talk simply in money figures. The motivations in the marketing activities are not purely financial and so are not the benefits.

[Rally Power]

Could they make a special hybrid unit that is used by everyone to keep costs as low as possible?

Apparently, that’s the plan for 2022 WRC cars.

[Rally Power]

Apparently the preferred supplier for the generic hybrid system is quoting £500k per car, hardly a cost reducer is it? Needless to say its a bit of a sticking point contract wise!

Ouch…did you get those zeros right?

[T16]

Yes. Comes from a well connected source.

Heck! so they are basically going to double the cost of the cars?
I'm staggered that they are even considering it, if that info is accurate.

[Rally Power]

Yes. Comes from a well connected source.

That’s insane…it would almost double current cars price. What about Matton’s plan to get low budget hybrids? TOCA/Cosworth mild system costs only 20k per season: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/m...logy-btcc-2022

[Mirek]

Figures, figures, still figures flying in the air. What they tell to you? Of course you can imagine that it's one hell of a money for anyone of us but we are not the manufacturers.

The manufacturers are involved in the process of rules creation. They know what they want and how much they are willing to invest. The hybrid WRC will be more expensive. That's no-brainer. However from the very simple fact that the manufacturers are pushing for that you can easily deduce that the money is not the problem if it's spent on something they are actually interested in.

I say let it happen. If they want it they can have it. Nobody else except the manufacturers is going to use these cars anyway so it will not affect the other classes and it will keep the sport running.