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    Quote Originally Posted by zako85 View Post
    It didn't. Rosberg already proved to be a tough fighter in 2013 when Hamilton moved to Mercedes, and we all remember the 2014 season where admittedly very error-prone Rosberg was already fighting for the title like mad. By then it was clear that he is a real deal. Moreover, in 2016 Rosberg wins the first four races establishing a points lead which I believe he carried to the end of season. On the other hand, it's not clear what "Bottas 2.0" could possibly do to bounce from the points deficit that he has now.
    Yes and no re the points deficit. Reliability cost Hamilton the 2016 title. Rosberg only won the first 4 races because of Hamilton’s reliability issues. Hamilton was leading the championship come the summer break. My post here sums up ultimately why Rosberg won the 2016 title:

    https://www.motorsportforums.com/sho...on-reminiscing

    That aside, Rosberg was a vastly more formidable opponent than Bottas v1.0 or v2.0 any day of the week. He was a massively gifted driver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zako85 View Post
    It didn't. Rosberg already proved to be a tough fighter in 2013 when Hamilton moved to Mercedes, and we all remember the 2014 season where admittedly very error-prone Rosberg was already fighting for the title like mad. By then it was clear that he is a real deal. Moreover, in 2016 Rosberg wins the first four races establishing a points lead which I believe he carried to the end of season. On the other hand, it's not clear what "Bottas 2.0" could possibly do to bounce from the points deficit that he has now.
    The engine failures at the beginning of the second half of the 2016 season presented Rosberg with a slender opportunity to win the title which he took with both hands. How the slender opportunity manifested was questionable and we would talk about it till the cows come home. Nonetheless, Rosberg had to seize the opportunity and hang on to it till Abu dhabi which he did and we respect him for that.

    The massive imbalance in the DNFs and reliaility issues between Hamilton and Rosberg explains why Rosberg was able to take the title. On equal footing, the 2016 title would been Hamilton's. That said, that is motor sport and as it went, it was Rosbergs turn to be crowned driver world champion. I don't think anyone would argue about his worthiness of attaining his 2016 world title. He drove a fantastic race throughout the season. It was the most intense rivalry l can remember since Hill vs Schumacher or Prost vs Senna.

    I will tell you this much, the race at Abu Dhabi 2016 would stick in my mind for years to come. How Hamilton frustrated Rosberg and the entire team as he backed Rosberg into Vettel's reach, the tension as everyone watched expectantly for something dramatic to happen. The agony of a very threatened Rosberg, the Mercedes team helpless on the pitwall as they desperately tried to persuade Hamilton to press on with the race. It was racing drama at its very finest.

    We are going to watch this in a movie in the near future and l hope by God that they get this moment right.
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    Sarcdasm mode? Therés far to many totally mute!

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    Quote Originally Posted by journeyman racer View Post
    Can you imagine the sequence of events that would have to occur for Bottas to win the title? The internet would explode!
    All that needs to happen is hamilton having some sort of injury, which would make him mis a few races.

    Something like loeb in 2006.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    All that needs to happen is hamilton having some sort of injury, which would make him mis a few races.

    Something like loeb in 2006.
    Even then it would be a big if. He would still struggle to win races against Verstappen or the Ferrari squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zako85 View Post
    Even then it would be a big if. He would still struggle to win races against Verstappen or the Ferrari squad.
    Quite true, Bottas is in a battle with Verstapenn and Leclerc for 2nd place in the championship at this time really. And in the last six races, both of these youngster have gained more points than Bottas and are closing fast. Redbull have more races where they can challenge Mercedes than Ferrari; on paper that is. Hence, there is the chance that Verstapenn is the main challenger for 2nd place and an outside chance for the driver's title.

    Bottas and Mercedes have a fight on their hands for the rest of he season. With Hamilton's lead there is a chance that he can stretch it out to Abu dhabi at least.
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    I like this lap !
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    lets just hope its on in 2020! Every time there's a big problem (mass immigration, earthquakes, euro collapse, banking crisis, ad nauseum) Italy seems to get the biggest kick in the nuts. We went to the italian grand prix last year and it was just epic. Lets just hope this latest wave of bad news for Italy doesn't jeopardise something that the locals get so much out of

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Flasheart View Post
    lets just hope its on in 2020! Every time there's a big problem (mass immigration, earthquakes, euro collapse, banking crisis, ad nauseum) Italy seems to get the biggest kick in the nuts. We went to the italian grand prix last year and it was just epic. Lets just hope this latest wave of bad news for Italy doesn't jeopardise something that the locals get so much out of

    Thank goodness. A new poster who isn't just a spam robot. Welcome aboard, Lord Flasheart!

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    Hearing the reasoning of the race director, he pointed out that Monza was a demonstration of how they intend to use the flag, which now introduces a threshold of contact as a precursor to points based penalty.

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