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[mknight]

Could be about road position or just another sign Adamo doesnt have faith in Mikkelsen

I would say faith in general. As he said in interview with Colin he either trusts a driver or doesn't. But it also seems that once he has decided on trusting or not it's set in stone.
No matter how bad Loeb does on a rally he is trusted, seems the same happened with Breen. Both in Finland and GB in just about every media zone Adamo would talk with Breenand basically ignore Mikkelsen even when Mikkelsen was fighting with Ogier (Finland) and Evans (GB) while Breen was not in a fight or in superrally.

[Eli]

what i meant was that on gravel the drivers do better than on tarmac.

Like you say that Mikkelsen and Loeb aren't fast with it on tarmac but have been fast on certain gravel events, Loeb recently in Spain just a week ago.

Are Sordo's and Neuville's driving styles similar? Because Sordo is also fast with it in on both surfaces. But he has been also with the team since day1 so it can be that they both just understand better the car.

True, but it's not the same car it was back in 2014 (different regulations) and, Mikkelsen has been there for 2 years now so....yes they have an advantage over him, but I recall him being very fast at the end of 2017 and then just not being able to match his own pace the following year. Anyhow, it's all history now, as Mikkelsen won't be competing for Hyundai in Australia, guess he's looking at other teams (ahm, maybe Toyota imho) for a drive next year.

[wia5958]

Sordo just doesn't drive the rallies where he isn't fast. In Argentina and Turkey this year it was him that was the slowest Hyundai still.



If true it's interesting decision making as Breen was slower than Mikkelsen in both outings this year and in GB crashed from behind Mikkelsen... and as a reward he gets to drive a rally where he crashed the last two years.

Could also be an indicator that Mikkelsen already signed elsewhere.

He was on mikklesens heels the whole of Finland and only slower than him on Sunday and was faster than him on Friday he was never gonna be allowed to push on Sunday so as to let neuville past him so don't paint it as a rosy picture where mikklesens was faster the whole weekend cause he really wasnt

[deephouse]

I look at this perspective: They would send Mikkelsen to the Oz, but recently he is in talks with other teams. He probbaly refuse or lose motivation for driving for them knowing he won't be there for a whole year or at least most of it, so he says goodbye already. They would immediately call Paddon who is eager to drive there and could deliver great results but he is entering with M-Sport already so that option is not available. Who is there? Breen ofcourse. Bad history with that rally but remember he had been driving C3 and back then it was as bad as much. Now he will drive i20 and who knows maybe he could deliver decent result.

And Hyundai maybe thinking long time. If Toyota will win the manu title this year they will certainly not winning next year and they know that. So what they could lose with sending Breen there.

[Eli]

I look at this perspective: They would send Mikkelsen to the Oz, but recently he is in talks with other teams. He probably refuse or lose motivation for driving for them knowing he won't be there for a whole year or at least most of it, so he says goodbye already. They would immediately call Paddon who is eager to drive there and could deliver great results but he is entering with M-Sport already so that option is not available. Who is there? Breen of course. Bad history with that rally but remember he had been driving C3 and back then it was as bad as much. Now he will drive i20 and who knows maybe he could deliver decent result.

And Hyundai maybe thinking long term. If Toyota will win the manu title this year they will certainly not winning next year and they know that. So what they could lose with sending Breen there.

Even if Mikkelsen goes to Toyota/M-Sport/whatever I don't think this rally would have harmed him, he usually brings in a good result (mind you he has won it 3 years ago), and for Hyundai it's still a risk, I get that both sides are already thinking about next season, but even for Mikkelsen as a rally driver, if you have an opportunity to drive, you drive, even if you won't be in that team next year. If not for the team, then at least to keep 'fit' until next year...I mean, to not drive from the start of October until the end of January is a lot of time without staying at the top of your game, and you may never know how things will eventually pan out....that is unless, Mikkelsen has already signed for next year.

[mknight]

He was on mikklesens heels the whole of Finland and only slower than him on Sunday and was faster than him on Friday he was never gonna be allowed to push on Sunday so as to let neuville past him so don't paint it as a rosy picture where mikklesens was faster the whole weekend cause he really wasnt

Breen was 0,4s faster after Friday with better road position. Since then he has been slower and ended Saturday 2 positions behind.
He totally was allowed to push on Sunday morning since he started 6s behind Ogier and if he crashed Neuville would just get his spot anyway. He even said so after first stage that he needs to push. First after 2nd he gave up.
So yes Mikkelsen was faster. Just like for example Tänak was faster than Neuville in GB even though the difference was small.

Breens contribution to teampoins from two starts was 0. So speed and likely results alone aren't the only reason.

Btw. Adamo was asked who will drive in Australia in Catalunya press conference and confirmed Mikkelsen. So either he lied or something changed.

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[wia5958]

Breen was 0,4s faster after Friday with better road position. Since then he has been slower and ended Saturday 2 positions behind.
He totally was allowed to push on Sunday morning since he started 6s behind Ogier and if he crashed Neuville would just get his spot anyway. He even said so after first stage that he needs to push. First after 2nd he gave up.
So yes Mikkelsen was faster. Just like for example Tänak was faster than Neuville in GB even though the difference was small.

Breens contribution to teampoins from two starts was 0. So speed and likely results alone aren't the only reason.

Btw. Adamo was asked who will drive in Australia in Catalunya press conference and confirmed Mikkelsen. So either he lied or something changed.

9 seconds behind in Finland after 2days in his first rally in a new car with little testing. Says much more about breen than it does for mikklesen. Everyone knows u have a hard on for him it's cute to see your reaction when someone criticizes him though

[wia5958]

Breen was 0,4s faster after Friday with better road position. Since then he has been slower and ended Saturday 2 positions behind.
He totally was allowed to push on Sunday morning since he started 6s behind Ogier and if he crashed Neuville would just get his spot anyway. He even said so after first stage that he needs to push. First after 2nd he gave up.
So yes Mikkelsen was faster. Just like for example Tänak was faster than Neuville in GB even though the difference was small.

Breens contribution to teampoins from two starts was 0. So speed and likely results alone aren't the only reason.

Btw. Adamo was asked who will drive in Australia in Catalunya press conference and confirmed Mikkelsen. So either he lied or something changed.

And breen was never going to be allowed to take points of neuville on sunday with him a position behind so was no point to push. His reason for 0 points for team out of 2 Rally's is he stepped aside and gave his points to neuville in Finland. And y are comparing tanak and neuville. We are comparing breen and mikklesen. Totally of subject as usual u try to spin something to make it look better than facts state

[mknight]

9 seconds behind in Finland after 2days in his first rally in a new car with little testing. Says much more about breen than it does for mikklesen.

So being ahead of someone means you are worse now?

Btw. Neuville was 20s behind Breen on Saturday evening, so let's kick Neuville and hire Breen?

And breen was never going to be allowed to take points of neuville on sunday with him a position behind so was no point to push.

He was 6 seconds behind Ogier at that point, even if he crashed Neuville would still get same points, while overtaking Ogier would help Hyundai in manu champ. But hey I wrote that already and you ignored it while talking about facts.....ok.

Breens comment after first stage on Sunday:

Breen Craig - Nagle Paul
"I need to push more than that definitely. You need to stick your neck out sometimes in this game and it's time to do it.

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Btw. Mikkelsen was in same situation on Sardinia on sunday. He was allowed to push and try to overtake Evans, if he failed he would drop behind Neuville just like Breen did in Finland.