New R4 Car - Think Tank

[br21]

Car is really nice!

[PLuto]

Car is really nice!

But expensive...

[Sulland]

How does the orderbook for kit look for Oreca?
Is it starting to fill, or is it still empty?

[Sulland]

Is Tommi skipping the R5 due to lack of good engine base, and plan to go R4 in the meantime?
has he been working with Oreca, or was it a coincidence that the test car was a Toyota?

[mArvAlcao17]

Is Tommi skipping the R5 due to lack of good engine base, and plan to go R4 in the meantime?
has he been working with Oreca, or was it a coincidence that the test car was a Toyota?

it's purely coincidence. He ofc prefer Yaris R5, if that's gonna happen

[Sulland]

Anyone knows if any Oreca based R4 cars have been testing or competing yet?

It is very quiet on the website of Oreca on this topic. Looks like they are not that interested in getting this class kicked off, and to prove it has a place for national and regional series.

Anyone here that know if the kit sold to Argentina have been used yet?

Have Evolve put together a Yaris testcar, that is possible to rent?
http://www.evolve-motorsport.com/yarisr4evolve/

[Sulland]

Have anyone seen a price for a turnkey R4 from any of the tuning firms?

[Sulland]

See your point Mirek, but you are lucky coming from a country where rally is big, and business see potential in sponsoring motorsport.

in many countries that is not the case, and up and coming drivers in many cases will have to pay most of it themselves. Many young talented drivers are either driving in national classes or R2 too long. Many quit rally, due to expenses.

For north european countries where cross country skiing, and football steal all the big sponsors, it is hard times to get a season even in the national series.

Getting in the Mirage and R4 might help, but still very expensive on a normal salary, at least in my country.
So now you know why I feel a cheap R3 4wd ala the old N4 class is a good idea.

[pantealex]

Is Tommi skipping the R5 due to lack of good engine base, and plan to go R4 in the meantime?
has he been working with Oreca, or was it a coincidence that the test car was a Toyota?

Toyota Etios is not on sale in Europe, so nothing to do with TGR or TMG either.

[Sulland]

Toyota Etios is not on sale in Europe, so nothing to do with TGR or TMG either.

But if Toyota wants to they could task TMR to make a Yaris R4. For most people watching it would be a Toyota anyway.
He would build another R4 building on the farm, or in Estland, that also has good rally traditions.