Donkey of the Race- Germany

[truefan72]

charlie whiting and the stewards
2 clear safety car situations

sutil's being the more egregious

honorable to massa, just throwing away points for Williams

[Doc Austin]

The race has not shown in the US yet, so I have not seen the Massa video. All I have seen a photo of him closing the door on someone who appeared to be very nearly alongside.

So, actually the donkey is going to be US television because the GP airing will be delayed so they can show the Indycar race live that was left over delayed from yesterday, then F1, then today's scheduled Indycar race.

Wait............ that's actually kind of good.

I am recovering from some surgery and can only lay around, so it is not all bad that I have the Tour de France, the German GP and two Indycar races to watch in a single day. I've got good pain killers too, so I can't wait to see if the Martini cars leave psychedelic trails behind them.

[pino]

Charlie Whiting !

[dj_bytedisaster]

charlie whiting and the stewards
2 clear safety car situations

Not surprising coming from you. Your friend needed SC's so you want them. Sutil's car was far enough off the racing line and after 1:30 everyone was past it and knew where the wreck was. No need for a SC there that would effectively have nullified the whole race.

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[pino]

dj, no insults !!!

[dj_bytedisaster]

dj, no insults !!!

Look up the archives pino. Look at the flak I took the last year without complaining. Let me at least bite back once in a while

[truefan72]

dj, no insults !!!

he is on my ignore list anyway lol

[steveaki13]

Not surprising coming from you. Your friend needed SC's so you want them. Sutil's car was far enough off the racing line and after 1:30 everyone was past it and knew where the wreck was. No need for a SC there that would effectively have nullified the whole race.

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I don't agree. Remember we actually had Marshalls running across the track!! Regardless of where the car is situated that is not right.

If Marshalls are crossing the racing line that should always be a SC.

As for the first lap incident that was also a SC.

I also believe Kyvat's fire should have been a SC. If it was on the side of the track on the grass fair enough, but his car was directly in a massive braking zone which is at the end of a 190mph straight. Even with drivers slowing down under double yellows a brake failure there could still see a car spin at 140 ish and right into the fire car and marshalls

[truefan72]

and from autosport: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115074

"Hamilton was not the only driver questioning why the safety car had not been brought out.

Fernando Alonso said that although a safety car at that moment would have been bad for his chances, he thought it would have been the best thing to do from a safety perspective.

"We were hoping not because we were in a situation that if the safety car went out there, it was 17 laps to the end and if we put the super-softs on, 17 laps was tough.

"But being objective and honest, probably we were expecting a safety car in a normal situation. Sometimes they put the safety car out for a piece of front wing on the track and now it was a car there and it was not a safety car.

"It was a surprise. But if they didn't put it out it was because they felt it was not a risk and they removed the car in a safe manner - I hope, I didn't see it - and that was it."

[Mia 01]

Lewis for me. Very aggressive driving, knocked Kimi and Button, Its like he expects other drivers to move over for him.