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11th October 2013, 13:37 #11
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by AndyRACStupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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11th October 2013, 13:47 #12
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
BTW Eurosport is planing six rallies (ERC) for 2014 with live broadcast. The format will be the same, four stages live per rally.
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11th October 2013, 13:51 #13
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by shaperzrallyStupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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11th October 2013, 14:04 #14
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
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11th October 2013, 14:06 #15
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by Mirek
The constant stupid changes made by FIA in recent years, that are supposed to make rallying "more attractive", do nothing good for our sport. It is not followed by more fans and it is not becoming more popular. Cycling and golf hasn't changed for years and they are followed by millions.http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
As many have commented, one big issue is Cost for total series.
When a team sits down these days to plan 2014, they look at cost of National series, ERC and WRC2/3, and what they get for their budget.
Very few will then end up with that it is better to drive medium size rallies around Europe, in a championship that is still trying to find its form, compared to the WRCircus, when the total cost btw ERC and WRC is not that different.
If they are to make a good reputation, they need to get down to aprox 8 rounds, and 5 counting. Then ERC will be a good alternative to start to get international experience.
If FIA also start using their head and see that they need to let organizers alternate btw ERC and WRC, to keep the organizations alive and kicking, then ERC will get a boost !
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11th October 2013, 14:25 #17
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
And speak about interesting sport broadcast... What about snooker? That sport(?) has huge live broadcast time on Eurosport and you watching two penguins with sticks, trying to sink some coloured balls for hours.
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11th October 2013, 14:38 #18
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by Sulland
In my opinion ERC despite some mistakes is much more privateer friendly than WRC. WRC on the other hand is prestigious, that's clear.Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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11th October 2013, 15:11 #19
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Re: 2013 Lessons identified
I agree with Mirek^^
That is not ERCs problem. A few years ago in IRC we had factory or quasi-factory teams from Skoda, Peugeot, Abarth, Proton competing.
And 'FIA ERC' arguably has more kudos than 'IRC'
For me, this years ERC has been some way off the heights of IRC, but much better than recent years of ERC. In other words; a good start but I hope one day it will get back to IRC levels.
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11th October 2013, 15:24 #20
Re: 2013 Lessons identified
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Of course team budget in cycling is nowhere near team budget in rallying, but sponsors are much more keen on financing bicycling (and its broadcasting) than they are for rallying. Despite all the doping scandals, cycling is still a "noble" sport, like athletism, running, etc. Rally cars (in the mind of marketing specialists) produce tons of CO2, destroy our roads and annoy people with their insane engine sounds. Of course it is biased, but we're not here to debate that.
Cycling is more socially acceptable, that's why it gets all the attention from the broadcasters. And if rallying doesn't make efforts into becoming that (i.e. with limited emissions, limited noise, etc.), the situation will not change. The other solution would be to look into alternative broadcasting methods that cost less for the promoters and that are more interesting to the fans and rally amateurs.
Really?? I'm no fan of F1, but too many here have a giant chip on their shoulder about F1......Compared to the WRC, it's actually a well run series....unlike the WRC which is extremely amateur a lot...
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