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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper
    Non of the ten top drivers in WRC today are talentless. You should choose your speach better.
    Do not remove my words from the context. It's unfair...
    'talentless' - No one spoke in general terms >

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertS
    Those drivers, who spent 2-3 full-seasons in WRC without real progress on tarmac, those are non-professionals or talentless.
    JML & Hirvonen? 8-10 years in the WRC in work's cars...
    http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/...ml#post1130429

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertS
    non-professionals or talentless.
    These are not hard words in the context.
    We have the real-talents with professional attitude to the sport, who became competitive on tarmac and gravel too: Makinen, Loeb, Auriol, Sainz, McRae, Ogier(?)
    'only-gravel-boys' - they are in a different league...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper
    You talk history of drivers in the past. Non of them drives WRC currently.
    Sainz's performance in Sweden was a sample only. When somebody has professional attitude to the sport, when somebody is trying hard. He did not win in Sweden, but he tried seriously...

    The problem is: JML & Hirvonen did not try on tarmac for 8 years. They did not attack even Sordo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper
    Non of the ten top drivers in WRC today are talentless.
    OK, he has the talent. So, what was missing on tarmac at JML for 8 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertS
    Please, determine JML's work on tarmac as WRC driver:
    Last year he had some nice(?) results on tarmac, after 8 years in WRC. Suddenly he can learn? What he did for 8 years? Professional work, hahhh...

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    Sebastien Ogier claims VW gremlins robbed him of Argentina WRC win - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com

    Still needs to learn a lot for Ogier to become epic driver - style, loyalty to his team etc.

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    He was critical from last year, nothing new. But at the end he should, and seems to be happy after all what he achieved so far this year:

    "..."In the end," he said, "this is a very satisfying result. We've scored 20 points and increased our lead, which is fabulous.

    "If you bear in mind that the car is still very young, this is an excellent season beginning."

    ..."
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    What a present! Loeb's onboard through one of the most spectacular stages of the WRC, El Condor-Copina. However, the camera could be better placed...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwbexpPMAk

    Although Latvala was 3.1 seconds faster there, I honestly don't need a split screen to compare them.
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    As you said camera placement is s***, as always, but nevertheless amazing road

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    Ogier did the 3rd quickest time on ss3 only 4,7 behind loeb and he lost time because of sordo..If it wouldn't happen what time will he do?
    Petter we want u back in WRC

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    It was clear from splits he was loosing time to Loeb already before he caught Sordo. In my opinion 1-2 seconds don't play any significant role. Others also caught Sordo by the way.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek
    It was clear from splits he was loosing time to Loeb already before he caught Sordo. In my opinion 1-2 seconds don't play any significant role. Others also caught Sordo by the way.
    You never know...Maybe would push.Sordo caught him his rythm...
    Petter we want u back in WRC

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