Dakar Rally 2013

[alleskids]

also Van Merksteijn out of the rally, too much damage.

so 2 Toyota's out plus 1 Mini

[Mirek]

Truck :
1 De Rooy (Iveco)
2 Loprais (Tatra) 6'59
3 Biasion (Iveco) 13'26
4 Nikolaev (Kamaz) 21'44
5 Versluis (Man) 28'21
6 Kolomy (Tatra) 38'15
7 Mardeev (Kamaz) 43'27
8 Van den Brink (Ginaf) 51'57
9 Ardavichus (Kamaz) 1h06'44
10 Stacey (Iveco) 1h12'53

Kolomý was driving yesterday without turbocharger due to broken flange. Another Czech trucks had problems as Valtr (Liaz) lost turbo hose and the repair took half an hour. Vildman hurt his back in a big hole he hit.

[bluuford]

is it true that the decision to delete some time from Carlos overall time in SS2 was cancelled and he got his initial time back again? Things get complicated here..

[Mad cat jnr]

03:01 : RACE OFFICIALS’ DECISION
The race officials for the car category,After having examined the report made by the Race Director,After discussions with the Race Director,After discussions with competitor number 303,After discussions with technical service provider ERTF,Have taken the following decision:Cancelation of the decision taken previously by the Race Management, on the following basis:The Race Management took its decision on 6th January 2013 further to a claim from competitor 303 on the basis of partial technical analysis proving that the main GPS experienced malfunctions.Comprehensive and more detailed analysis, based on the final report made by ERTF, in fact revealed that the second GPS was functioning correctly


From dakar site.

[Kielder]

is it true that the decision to delete some time from Carlos overall time in SS2 was cancelled and he got his initial time back again? Things get complicated here..

Yes, it's true. Mini appealed yesterday and officials admitted it because drivers have a second GPS on cars and it was proved it was working well. Nevertheless, Sainz uses it as mileometer.
Sainz isn't very happy with this, mainly because yesterday he was the first on the road for nothing. IMHO officials should have checked the second GPS after the second leg.

[alleskids]

1. Stephane Peterhansel X-raid Mini 05:34:26
2. Nasser Al-Attiyah Red Bull Buggy + 06m33s
3. Lucio Alvarez Overdrive Toyota + 18m11s
4. Leonid Novitskiy X-raid Mini + 21m10s
5. Giniel de Villiers Imperial Toyota + 30m22s
6. Nani Roma X-raid Mini + 32m56s
7. Orlando Terranova X-raid BMW + 35m13s
8. Bernard Errandonea SMG Buggy + 38m32s
9. Ronan Chabot SMG Buggy + 39m40s
10. Carlos Sainz Red Bull Buggy + 42m42s

[Kielder]

Holowczyc's accident:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl23e...layer_embedded

[A FONDO]

Yes, it's true. Mini appealed yesterday and officials admitted it because drivers have a second GPS on cars and it was proved it was working well. Nevertheless, Sainz uses it as mileometer.
Sainz isn't very happy with this, mainly because yesterday he was the first on the road for nothing. IMHO officials should have checked the second GPS after the second leg.

Sainz is always unhappy with something. Remeber a few years back he claimed his sentinel was broken, but he actually appeared to be not close enough to activate it.

About the current story, most of the competitors lost time on that checkpoint but didn't blame somebody/something else. mini, RGM and one other team appealed that Sainz shut off (and then on) his tracker (which is forbidden) on purpose to claim it has electrical shortage. Perhaps the truth is somewhere in between, but it's very pity from Sainz to twitt things like "wanna take the suitcases"

[dupanton]

I think the organisation is a mess. Once taken a decision, they should stay with it. Certainly, they can't change it after the next stage. As mentioned here, Sainz had to start first,, which meant he lost even more time due to difficult navigation etc. That is not correct IMO.

Also, what was it with Al-Attiyah? He got a 1 hour penalty at first, and then it was gone again. What was de reason for that?

[Mirek]

I think the organisation is a mess. Once taken a decision, they should stay with it. Certainly, they can't change it after the next stage. As mentioned here, Sainz had to start first,, which meant he lost even more time due to difficult navigation etc. That is not correct IMO.

If Mini appealed they have to reconsider the decision. They can't say to Mini to f.u.ck. off...