Are you allowed to overtake off track now?

[truefan72]

wow Horner is spewing nonsense in the Sky interview,
crying about Hamilton passing Vettel

just absurd talk

[Zico]

They are supposed to have clamped down on this behaviour... Vettel should have given the position back immediately and had another go instead... unless he knows he is immune from getting a penalty. Remembering Lewis/Kimi incident at Spa a few years ago and with Lewis getting a suspended penalty for gaining an advantage... lets hope for some consistancy from the Stewards.

[Knock-on]

I must admit that my mind went to the Kimi Spa incident but the difference there was that Lewis gave the position back but STILL got penalised.

As for Horner, what a tosser. The crap he spouted was pure rubbish. I'm glad that Herbert and Hill put it back to him and made him admit Lewis didn't break the rules.

I really have no time for this man any more. He's worse than ioan for bias.

[ShiftingGears]

They are supposed to have clamped down on this behaviour... Vettel should have given the position back immediately and had another go instead... unless he knows he is immune from getting a penalty. Remembering Lewis/Kimi incident at Spa a few years ago and with Lewis getting a suspended penalty for gaining an advantage... lets hope for some consistancy from the Stewards.

The rule only applies for short-cutting the track.

I can't think of a single instance of stewards clamping down on use of the outside of a corner to pass someone. So at least they're consistent, as much as I dislike run-off being used in that way.

[donKey jote]

The rule only applies for short-cutting the track.

link please (c) valve

[Whyzars]

The rule only applies for short-cutting the track.

I can't think of a single instance of stewards clamping down on use of the outside of a corner to pass someone. So at least they're consistent, as much as I dislike run-off being used in that way.

There aren't too many corners like the Hockenheim hairpin.

I was impressed at how well Vettel hooked up when off the track. Maybe they could put a few buckets of sand out there rather than a clean racing surface.

My thought is that Vettel should've yielded the position to Button. He didn't so he should get a drive through or equivalent unfortunately.

I'm surprised that Vettel didn't get an instruction from his pit but he was a fair way in front wthin a couple of corners. Maybe that might save him.

[truefan72]

There aren't too many corners like the Hockenheim hairpin.

I was impressed at how well Vettel hooked up when off the track. Maybe they could put a few buckets of sand out there rather than a clean racing surface.

My thought is that Vettel should've yielded the position to Button. He didn't so he should get a drive through or equivalent unfortunately.

I'm surprised that Vettel didn't get an instruction from his pit but he was a fair way in front wthin a couple of corners. Maybe that might save him.

just remembered that Alonso got a penalty for passing Kubica off track in Silverstone 2 years ago

so what is the hold up with the stewards?

[A FONDO]

Maybe they could put a few buckets of sand out there rather than a clean racing surface.

There should be either sand/gravel traps or a penalty for going wide off the track as it is for short-cutting.

[ArrowsFA1]

IMHO Vettel deliberately took a wide line to gain speed and so make the pass. It was pre-planned, not a response to anything Button did. To claim, as Vettel did, that he only went wide because he didn't know where Button was patently rubbish.

Seb should have given the place back immediately, but as he didn't the stewards need to demote him to third. If they don't then what it the point in the rules of defining the track limits with white lines?

[Bagwan]

The replay showed Button still had the lead (just) as Vettel went for the run off. he chose not to yield insted, to drive fully off track to pass

If that's the case , then I don't think they will have any choice , but to reverse positions at least .

It will be all about the very last moment they deem that Sebastian was on the track surface .