Are you allowed to overtake off track now?

[Knock-on]

Vettel spent more time off the track than on

[Koz]

Only if you have special engine mappings.

RedBull gives you wings! POW!

[N4D13]

Sebastian, Jenson is faster than you. Can you confirm you understood this message?

I'm expecting Seb to get a penalty - at least, to make sure that he'll lose 2nd place, although a drive through looks rather more appropriate.

[donKey jote]

bull**** vettel: "I didn't know where you were so I went outside"

[ShiftingGears]

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32 seconds in. If it's around the outside the stewards don't care.

[steveaki13]

I think he will get a Penalty.

This was the incident I thought of. In 2003. Michael passing Jarno exactly the same. No penalty, but then Mike got a puncture so we will never no.

F1 2003 German gp highlights Itv commentary - YouTube

Look at 2:45 on

[Knock-on]

Got to be 25 seconds at least otherwise the stewards are saying "cheat if you want, there's no penalty"

[Robinho]

they might not have in 2007, but they've been clarifying this stuff a lot lately. Vettels excuse stunk, if he thought that Button was there then he had to yield, not drive off the track around him - he was that much quicker he would have got him somewhere in the next lap, instead he could find himself 5th or 6th.

that said he'll probably get away with it, just as with the engine maps

[AndyL]

If it's around the outside the stewards don't care.

Things might be different here, since there have already been warnings issued this weekend about departing the circuit on the outside.

[steveaki13]

The stewards abit random. They often invent a new penalty just to drop said driver one place. If Kimi had been 3 seconds behind, they would invent a 2.5 second penalty.