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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper
    Ouuussshhhhh! That was heavy impact. Could have happened to anyone...
    It's the exit of Moullinet. Just two or three corners after start. One would not expect a driver like JML to crash so early in the sage. But ok, **** happens. The main thing is they are unhurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek
    Because Col de Turini is the most famous and one of the oldest stages in the history of rallying. It has been run for more than 100 years.
    But that´s not an answer. History over security? No.

    Organizer always have to take action to any problems that may appear. In advance. Now they didn´t. Just let everything go. As for 100 yrs ago...

    That is not the level safety measures should be handled.
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    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

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    Rallyper, cool down now.

    If we'd go for 100% safe and security we will be allowed to watch rally only via video.
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper
    Ouuussshhhhh! That was heavy impact. Could have happened to anyone...
    Did happen, Novikov crashed at same place...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pucky54
    Did happen, Novikov crashed at same place...
    At least he was a bit slower. I think Neuville would have crashed in the same way there, had he made it to the start of this stage.

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    road are cleaned exactly like in Lviv (my city)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper
    But that´s not an answer. History over security? No.

    Organizer always have to take action to any problems that may appear. In advance. Now they didn´t. Just let everything go. As for 100 yrs ago...

    That is not the level safety measures should be handled.
    So after the night Turini was brought back in 2009 it was run 10x successfully and the 11th run was canceled and You act like it was the end of the world, eh? They canceled 6 stages last year in Portugal, every year there are canceled stages in Argentina. So what? Will we kick these rallies out of the calendar? It's part of the game and it has always been part of the game. It doesn't mater if it's usual terrible weather in Argentina or too few access roads in France, or people hidden in wineyards on dangerous places in Alsace or anything else. These are circumstances which make some events more difficult to organize.

    What matters is that the iconic events and stages appeal to the public much more than uniform maybe non-problematic events of the modern WRC. You want to get rid of legendary stages like Col de Turini on which the history of rallying started. OK, on same safety basis we can immediately kick out Ouninpohja because it's dangerous as hell. We can kick out El Condor because there is always bad weather. We can kick out Whaanga Coast because somebody could fall into the sea. We can kick out panzerplatte because the hinkelsteins are dangerous. And in the end we will be sitting at home watching videos of Walter Röhl climbing up the Turini and crying about the good old days...
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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