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30th April 2012, 01:22 #11
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Originally Posted by Roamy
- Thomas Malthus - An essay on the principle of population. (1798)
Malthus also suggested (and this can be proven experimentally) that if a colony of organisms, say bacteria, rats, algae, (Easter Island???) exhausts its supply of resources, then it will experience a collapse in population. If we're going to replicate the experiment with people on the planet, we're doing a fair job, it's just that the time frame is longer.
The problem is that people have a capacity for unlimited wants which can not hope to be supplied with limited resources.
How do we have successful economy with no population growth? We could always limit population growth, or perhaps increase the technological quality of the goods and services being consumed; in that respect I completely echo Ioan's sentiments.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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30th April 2012, 13:09 #12
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Originally Posted by ioan
Yes, this life is rat racing. You have to keep running just to stay where you are.Llibertat
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30th April 2012, 13:11 #13
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30th April 2012, 18:23 #14
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Originally Posted by Rollo“If everything's under control, you're going too slow.” Mario Andretti
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30th April 2012, 19:17 #15
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30th April 2012, 19:39 #16
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Originally Posted by Roamy
What is the problem with Population growth?
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30th April 2012, 19:48 #17
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The problem is when resource provision does not grow in step. Malthus tells us that it cannot.
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30th April 2012, 21:37 #18
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There was also Calhoun's "rat utopia" experiment in the late 1960s. Four breeding pairs were given unlimited nesting material, food and water but only given a nine-foot square of space, and within 3 years the rat population in "rat utopia" went from 8 to 600 to zero.
For some reason, rat society in rat utopia eventually broke down completely with social orders being abandoned, children being abandoned, rats attacking each other and males refusing to breed. Even under perfect provisions, when space is an issue, extinction was still the result.
There are 6 billion of us now (7 billion if you're watching the repeat and 16 billion if you're watching the repeats on Dave); eventually the amount of usable arable land necessary to keep human populations adequately fed is going to run out. Experimentally I don't know if humans follow the same social rules as rats, but there's certainly interesting parallels.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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30th April 2012, 21:50 #19
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Originally Posted by BDunnell
I buy stuff based on their price/quality, usually quite expensive stuff but only what is really needed.
For example I have no TV, just a laptop with a USB TV tuner (which might become obsolete now that i do not watch F1 anymore.Michael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz
Anyway, without a change the future looks bleak, both for capitalism and for us.Michael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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