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    He also got a big fat contract and Redgrey running the wrc2 Hyundais.

    So not quite as cut and dry as either "he was overconfident/ or he hated the Toyota atmosphere". Lots of reasons combined would've resulted in him switching teams, including the above.

    There were a hell of a lot of people on here, including myself, who were sure it wasn't a good move from a purely sporting sense, and that's been the case. He'd probably be a triple world champion by now had he stayed at Toyota (as Ogier wouldn't be in the Toyota had Ott not left the team).

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    He also got a big fat contract and Redgrey running the wrc2 Hyundais.
    I remember reading that financially the Hyundai deal wasn't as good as Toyota...but these things we never know for sure. RedGrey is another thing though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    I remember reading that financially the Hyundai deal wasn't as good as Toyota...
    He said itself it in some Estonian interview that he lost a lot of money going to Hyundai. Just on driver`s contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    He also got a big fat contract and Redgrey running the wrc2 Hyundais.

    So not quite as cut and dry as either "he was overconfident/ or he hated the Toyota atmosphere". Lots of reasons combined would've resulted in him switching teams, including the above.

    There were a hell of a lot of people on here, including myself, who were sure it wasn't a good move from a purely sporting sense, and that's been the case. He'd probably be a triple world champion by now had he stayed at Toyota (as Ogier wouldn't be in the Toyota had Ott not left the team).
    Dunno how big or fat the contract was but they were able to keep their business going

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    Markko Märtin is Ott's mentor/manager and Ott's move to Hyundai was his decision because he needed new R5 business for Red Grey team, as Toyota finished Katsutas development program with him (Katsutas Ford R5 was rented from RG Team). Money talks, now Ott's wife is sitting in the board of the joint company with MM, SQM2 Invest, their 2020 turnover was 5 089 857€, 2021 4 347 259€.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sti123 View Post
    Markko Märtin is Ott's mentor/manager and Ott's move to Hyundai was his decision because he needed new R5 business for Red Grey team, as Toyota finished Katsutas development program with him (Katsutas Ford R5 was rented from RG Team). Money talks, now Ott's wife is sitting in the board of the joint company with MM, SQM2 Invest, their 2020 turnover was 5 089 857€, 2021 4 347 259€.
    It`s really hard, if not possible to imagine, that Markko could make a decision for Ott. Ott, being solid "saarlane" (i.e.islander, something like an old tough-as-rock scotch fart). He is anything else but a stupid person.
    Not saying, R5 program had no impact, but that was definitely not the main reason.

    Besides, Ott is probably making this 5 mil euros and more a year only on salary and bonuses. And this is net income, not turnover, where profit could be even negative.
    Last edited by linni; 14th January 2022 at 12:50.

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