Honda's 12 engines???

[GRW1983]

I keep reading that Sarah Fisher can't get a Honda because they have already comitted to 12 engine deals. When did they give out 2 more??? Ganassi 4, Rahal 2, Coyne 2, & 1 each for Foyt & SSM. They are the only deals I can find official confirmation for, so who is getting the 2 extra Honda's when Fisher & Conquest are on the sidelines & Shank might be as well, although they could yet land a Lotus deal depending on what you read.

I can't work out why Honda can't give Sarah or Eric an engine???
Anybody know exactly why???

[FIAT1]

I don't understand why Honda, GM can't supply two more engines each ,now that Indycar has new dilema of to many cars. Imagine that. What a problem to have, but knowing the players they have a history of destroying all things great, and then wonder where did fans go.

[GRW1983]

You would think that it wouldn't be too much to ask for Lotus to supply Shank, Chevrolet to supply Fisher & Honda supply Conquest. That way each manufacturer takes on 1 additional lease so that all three are helping the series fill the grid. Yes, they aren't obliged to, but it would be good if they all decided to do so. Anyway, they are going off 25 cars. We are already at 26, so all we are talking about is 3 more. Surely 4 more cars shouldn't cripple the engine supply for IndyCar.

[FIAT1]

Obligations are understood,but couple more engines would not make a dent in Honda or GM programs and rest assured if Penske or Ganassi needed engine for one more car it would be there. Sometimes things have to take place for the good of the sport.

[FIAT1]

Hmm, you really believe that either Honda or GM care about the good of the sport? It's a marketing tool, nothing more, nothing less. As such it has an ROI like anything else in business. As mentioned above, both have already committed beyond their original budgets. Sure is easy to spend other people's money.

Giving Sarah engine would not brake the bank but would be great story and good pr for month of may, as for spending other people's money I buy my ticket with my own money to see them race therefore I'm allowed to show displeasure at present situation or Am I?

[00steven]

Honda and Chevy did their part, Lotus can do theirs. Perhaps if Sarah put together a better plan this wouldn't be happening right now. She wasn't even planing a full time year, so why would Honda or Chevy benefit from spending their own money to fund a part time team?

If she needs an engine than I suggest Indycar TELL Lotus that they need to get her one.

[chuck34]

Why wouldn't Chevy, Honda, or Lotus want to sell/lease/whatever another engine? I'm missing something. That is unless they are taking a loss on engines? Have the three manufacturers agreed to some strange scheme where they are only allowed to sell/lease engines at a loss to them?

Color me confused?

[DBell]

Why wouldn't Chevy, Honda, or Lotus want to sell/lease/whatever another engine? I'm missing something. That is unless they are taking a loss on engines? Have the three manufacturers agreed to some strange scheme where they are only allowed to sell/lease engines at a loss to them?

Color me confused?

I think they are losing money on the engines. Increasing the engines they supply will increase their losses.

I think Starter was spot on with this:

Hmm, you really believe that either Honda or GM care about the good of the sport? It's a marketing tool, nothing more, nothing less. As such it has an ROI like anything else in business. As mentioned above, both have already committed beyond their original budgets. Sure is easy to spend other people's money.

[FIAT1]

And then we'd be back to some teams being more equal than others. Sarah's team is a feel good story for sure, but to give her preference over others is a really, really bad idea. Who gets the next new "special" part, or break in qualifying or the race? And why? That's a slippery slope for sure.

The suppliers have fulfilled more than the contracted number of engines (sans Lotus). If you make a special deal for her then what are you going to do for the other teams needing engines? Oh sorry, you're not a woman owner too bad you don't get one. That's not only sexist, it's probably illegal to discriminate that way.

Woman owner, sexist ,descriminate etc is misplaced statement of what tread is obout. Yung American racer from ladder series should have a chance to race in majors and big supliers should step up as they could at this time of new begining when small company's can't. Happens to be that he is hired to the team that has woman as part owner. This team has help series when they needed full field. Teams pay for engine and I don't see nothing special obout that. Some teams get milions from family that controls everything to run in the series and they get engine to. That is equal or special? Penske or Ganassi wont get special developed parts first and they have their wind tunel ,money etc. Equal? What category of discrimination is that ? None. This is racing business and there is no equal . Did GM get special treatment when they needed helping hand form all of us or that's equal? (Boy, it's easy to spend other peoples money). What I'm traying to say is give this team chance to buy/lease engine, kid a chance to race,nothing more ,because there is nothing special obout that , it is just right thing to do for the series ,fans and month of may and if that is so wrong then any futher statement on the matter from me is unnecessary.

[GRW1983]

Does anyone actually know who the teams receiving additional engines from Honda are??? Ganassi 4, Coyne 2, Rahal 2, & 1 each for Foyt & SSM are the current figures yet they say they are comitting to 12. It would be nice if they confirmed these 2 extra leases. Also, seems that Lotus will start the season with only 5 cars. As it stands Conquest, Fisher & Shank will miss the start of the season.